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Hortensis

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57. Sigh. Post midterms, you'd think we'd get a break from

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:44 AM

Nov 2018

people pushing wedge issues, not ramping them up. But then I remembered the big battle, not just in congress and legislatures in 2019, but Wednesday meant turning whole armies to 2020.

The giant battle for power, wealth, and the soul of our nation continues. But it would have been nice to have a brief respite from dissension to just be glad of our significant victories and also to pride ourselves on the advances our nation has made against all opposition.

It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America.

The late great Molly Ivins, whose contribution to the great battle continues.

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Bernie [View all] FromMissouri Nov 2018 OP

What started all of this? RandySF Nov 2018 #1

Possibly Hekate Nov 2018 #6

Sigh. Post midterms, you'd think we'd get a break from Hortensis Nov 2018 #57

I like the essential message of inclusion. DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #79

"let's keep defining the environment as a jobs and health issue" Hortensis Nov 2018 #86

That's such a great summary of where we stand. United, successful - and nibbled by dividers! DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #88

:) And yours is wonderfully succinct. Hortensis Nov 2018 #89

No..he's giving racists cover nini Nov 2018 #2

What do you mean by 'consider the alternative?' leftstreet Nov 2018 #3

I mean, FromMissouri Nov 2018 #81

... LexVegas Nov 2018 #4

Last things first: LBJ midwifed the Civil Rights Act. He believed it was right. His comment... Hekate Nov 2018 #5

... mcar Nov 2018 #7

What has Bernie done to make the effort to "bring these people in"? What is he doing right now to WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #8

"They are the future of our party" BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #9

Your chat seems to show a Bernie endorsement was helpful dembotoz Nov 2018 #33

I think part of the point of the chart BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #36

the endorsements bernie made around here helped build momentum dembotoz Nov 2018 #58

I don't know where you live BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #61

Wisconsin dembotoz Nov 2018 #64

Then I know you are celebrating the end of Scott Walker! BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #68

We needed every bit of enthusiasm we could get dembotoz Nov 2018 #73

Hopping on a bandwagon that's already in motion isn't really an "endorsement" is it? NurseJackie Nov 2018 #47

I agree that this forum has become a Bernie stomping grounds and it's sad mtnsnake Nov 2018 #10

This. Rizen Nov 2018 #39

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Nov 2018 #42

Well said!! Bernie has led the progressive movement for decades... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #51

Thank you. FromMissouri Nov 2018 #82

Must I move on so quickly? OneBro Nov 2018 #11

I think your post is very well stated. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #13

Question. moondust Nov 2018 #19

That is what I thought, too, moondust. He is not as cynical about independents as some, JudyM Nov 2018 #23

I do not think that Bernie is racist in the least. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #24

Thanks. moondust Nov 2018 #25

Thank you, and I really appreciate what you added to the discussion. OneBro Nov 2018 #20

Soft racism is still racism. brush Nov 2018 #17

Very well said. Thank you. nt Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #29

You are right about 1 thing. Bernie is not the enemy. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #12

This. Demwolv Nov 2018 #16

Yes. FromMissouri Nov 2018 #83

Thanks, Adam SERWER, for the appreciation UTUSN Nov 2018 #14

Bernie is not the enemeny Demwolv Nov 2018 #15

Because, despite my initial thoughts I do not think you are trolling. I will try to explain this , GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #18

Bravo, bravo! EffieBlack Nov 2018 #27

Yes, please make this an OP. betsuni Nov 2018 #32

Make this an OP, please! n/t susanna Nov 2018 #34

Excellent post. It was needed to be said. oasis Nov 2018 #35

Well said! Thank you. mia Nov 2018 #40

Well said. Too bad we can't rec replies. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #55

I'd feel differently about Bernie if, as soon as the convention was over, he hadn't announced pnwmom Nov 2018 #21

Bernie grantcart Nov 2018 #22

Thank you! violetpastille Nov 2018 #28

Wow. This deserves it's own thread. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #30

Well I didn't really go into the TPP like I would like to lol grantcart Nov 2018 #31

++++++++ JHan Nov 2018 #45

Thank you for this most valuable input. nt oasis Nov 2018 #37

Wish I could rec your post. cwydro Nov 2018 #38

I think we're All REC it just by Cha Nov 2018 #78

Best essay on this subject I've read all year! No, I take that back... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #67

No Kidding! Cha Nov 2018 #80

Post of the week NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #70

Cheers to that, Riff! Cha Nov 2018 #77

Outstanding! brer cat Nov 2018 #72

+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #74

Very well said! DesertRat Nov 2018 #75

Such "irony", grant.. and your Cha Nov 2018 #76

Thank You. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #87

He is not a Democrat. Never been a Democrat question everything Nov 2018 #26

"He, and his followers do not belong on these pages." mtnsnake Nov 2018 #43

There is a thread somewhere, and I chose not to read it with 200+ responses question everything Nov 2018 #63

This! Yes! Everything you said... thank you. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #44

Blame green party and non-voters Rizen Nov 2018 #41

The expression that comes to mind is "actions speak louder than words." George II Nov 2018 #46

"Bernie is saying the things they, and I, want to hear." --- Oh, please! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #48

Well, let's just say FromMissouri Nov 2018 #84

Yes. Incessant aggressive divisiveness will never have the benefit they imagine, and is hurting us. JudyM Nov 2018 #49

Who's being more "divisive", JudyM? NurseJackie Nov 2018 #50

It is ok to be anti Bernie. I don't like him and wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #52

I think... Mike Nelson Nov 2018 #53

Yes, he'll run as an independant and be a spoiler just like Ralph Nader was in the 2000 election. Fla Dem Nov 2018 #59

I was a delegate to the national convention and I have a very different view of bernie Gothmog Nov 2018 #54

If someone has a problem voting for someone because they are black, that is racist period. While still_one Nov 2018 #56

Yup. Some people can't wait to divide us before the next race realmirage Nov 2018 #60

The level of vitriol is telling. As if those they support don't also have clay feet. JudyM Nov 2018 #62

We need to all be clear who the real enemy is realmirage Nov 2018 #65

Yes, unity. The hysterics against him any time he's in the news alienates people, if anything. JudyM Nov 2018 #66

I don't see how it could possibly help Democrats realmirage Nov 2018 #69

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #71

Thank you all. FromMissouri Nov 2018 #85