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realmirage

(2,117 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 01:02 PM Nov 2018

You're going to need people like me in 2020 [View all]

I like the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. I think what Sanders proved is that a lot of other people do too. Did you see his support in places like West Virginia? That guy can pull votes from an array of groups.

If you have young people in your family, ask them about Sanders and the progressive movement. You want to say now that young people don’t vote in the numbers older people do, right? Here’s something that you should give a good hard look -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/20/more-young-people-voted-for-bernie-sanders-than-trump-and-clinton-combined-by-a-lot/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fa5cd9c89dde

Now ask yourself, how would you win without that percentage that DOES vote? What if it went down by half? What if they turn away from our Party and do something stupid like vote Green Party because we don’t make room for Sanders and the progressive movement in our big tent?

United we stand, remember?

Sanders still has an ENORMOUS support base. You have to admit reality, that Sanders has a very good chance at winning the nomination in 2020. But if he doesn’t, we are going to need his supporters.

And no, the DNC rules do NOT prevent Sanders from getting the nomination. That Newsweek article debunked itself with a screenshot of the rules that do NOT say you need to be a registered Democrat to get it.

It will be beyond sad if we go limping into the general election in 2020 because we can’t tell friend from foe. Yes, the past is painful, but I want to win. And if it means I have to put aside my feelings about the past so that there can be hope for tomorrow, then I am mature enough to do the hard adult stuff and support ALL the people in our big tent so that we can defeat this cancerous movement on the right that threatens everything, including democracy itself.

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What the heck? manor321 Nov 2018 #1
The black caucus and the progressive caucus are plenty progressive MountCleaners Nov 2018 #10
Totally agree, we need to all support each other realmirage Nov 2018 #12
Then why didn't you say that in your OP? Bernie supporters pnwmom Nov 2018 #607
There you go playing "identity politics" EffieBlack Nov 2018 #90
Thanks for sharing your lofty thoughts with us mere mortals. (nt) Paladin Nov 2018 #2
Need them? Is that a threat that they might NOT support whoever is up against Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #28
Yes, this is a threat-if we do not nominate sanders they will help elect trump again Gothmog Nov 2018 #93
OK, that happened, but... Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #271
I know almost as many never Hillary Separation Nov 2018 #299
I get what you're trying to say mountain grammy Nov 2018 #338
Go back and look at Hillary / Obama in 2008 Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #372
For many of those "concerned" about H Clinton's spooky3 Nov 2018 #527
It didn't necessarily do John Kerry a world of good either Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #533
But did they become "never Kerry" voters in the general? spooky3 Nov 2018 #535
I think that's why some voted for Nader/Camejo, and others stayed home. Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #538
They did, but I don't think the evidence is convincing spooky3 Nov 2018 #543
No doubt sexism was a factor Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #554
the concept that we should bow down to a silly threat is unacceptable Gothmog Nov 2018 #329
You shouldn't bow down, but you shouldn't flip them off either Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #341
I am hopeful that sanders does not run Gothmog Nov 2018 #349
I'm sorry you had those experiences Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #358
The premise of the OP is a threat to help re elect trump Gothmog Nov 2018 #360
I doubt he'd go Indie for POTUS Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #368
The premise of the OP is offensive and is not designed for unity Gothmog Nov 2018 #373
Hmmmmmm.... Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #390
So-called progressive/sanders voters clearly voted against Gilliam in the real world Gothmog Nov 2018 #409
i agree julia b. Nov 2018 #541
Yup. Some of them might have been people who were just messing with us pnwmom Nov 2018 #608
wish we could discuss what happened, not make same mistake, etc Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #282
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #505
"I will vote for whoever has the best chance of defeating Trump in the 2020".... George II Nov 2018 #526
Excellent question... I see you won't be receiving a response. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #552
OOOOH, that's cold........... George II Nov 2018 #553
It's the old "we'll take our ball and go home" or "we'll boo at the convention and Squinch Nov 2018 #139
I was at the convention and I saw the booing and worst behavior Gothmog Nov 2018 #180
And virtually everyone in this thread sees through the divisive nonsense. So that's good. Squinch Nov 2018 #191
Are you one of the JPR posters who approved of the booing of Congressman John Lewis Gothmog Nov 2018 #194
Did you mean to post this to me? I am agreeing with you. Squinch Nov 2018 #212
Yeah, I think Goth was addressing the OP Hekate Nov 2018 #217
Except I just re-read my two comments to Gothmog in this thread, and realized Squinch Nov 2018 #221
thanks Gothmog Nov 2018 #330
Sorry they were so misunderstandable! Squinch Nov 2018 #342
I am still tired from the election Gothmog Nov 2018 #343
You two are starting to sound like Dan Crenshaw and Pete Davidson (I'M JOKING!!!!) Sometimes.... George II Nov 2018 #544
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #506
Were you at the convention? Gothmog Nov 2018 #516
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #520
sanders will not be the nominee for so long as African American voters are key to the base Gothmog Nov 2018 #523
"WTF is the matter with you people?" ehrnst Nov 2018 #547
+1000. nt ecstatic Nov 2018 #445
And not much we can do with those who threaten Cary Nov 2018 #454
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #501
It's a threat. They don't give a shit about Hispanic, Black and Jewish folks in this country octoberlib Nov 2018 #542
This. Exactly. xmas74 Nov 2018 #556
You are correct, of course. One wonders what it will take , I know Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #576
This lillypaddle Nov 2018 #579
:) Our grand Democratic alliance IS our progressive "wing"! Hortensis Nov 2018 #183
+1. Indeed. Gets long in the tooth at times doesnt it? Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #327
I disagree Glamrock Nov 2018 #3
This reply wins the Internet for today realmirage Nov 2018 #5
Grassy ass. Glamrock Nov 2018 #7
+1 aikoaiko Nov 2018 #19
+2 vsrazdem Nov 2018 #27
it is only on DU that the bernie hate continues questionseverything Nov 2018 #205
Actually BS gets called out All Over Cha Nov 2018 #213
There are some great threads on sanders on Twitter Gothmog Nov 2018 #410
Why do you think Bernie is the only one saying healthcare is a human right? dawg day Nov 2018 #235
Heres our standard bearer Glamrock Nov 2018 #260
+1000000! (nt) ehrnst Nov 2018 #548
and over at JPR Hillary hate runs supreme, along with the Democratic party hate still_one Nov 2018 #364
I will NEVER understand that as long as I live. calimary Nov 2018 #477
Hillary hate is equally stupid realmirage Nov 2018 #480
Yet Vermont doesn't have single payer, but Obama actually accomplished R B Garr Nov 2018 #455
insurance for everyone is not the same as healthcare for everyone questionseverything Nov 2018 #597
I get hides even when I haven't broken any rule realmirage Nov 2018 #478
Then you should appeal still_one Nov 2018 #498
I do, but sometimes even that gets ignored. realmirage Nov 2018 #504
great comment Celerity Nov 2018 #215
Much appreciated. I really just want to win. realmirage Nov 2018 #482
Sanders isn't IN the party-- by his own choice. dawg day Nov 2018 #234
Wrong Glamrock Nov 2018 #239
So what's your problem then? dawg day Nov 2018 #273
What grevience? Glamrock Nov 2018 #280
Thank you. Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #322
My pleasure Glamrock Nov 2018 #328
Which particular leadership position is that? dhol82 Nov 2018 #385
Chairman of Committee Outreach Glamrock Nov 2018 #392
So, how long will he be leader? dhol82 Nov 2018 #393
Not sure how long Glamrock Nov 2018 #394
I'm going to to to say somewhere around January he will be gone dhol82 Nov 2018 #396
Okay. Glamrock Nov 2018 #397
So true! But let me point out, Bernie is not a Democrat... in case anyone forgot! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #489
Hahahaha! Glamrock Nov 2018 #490
Let's talk once he joins the party again. Get back to us then. brush Nov 2018 #4
He has zero chance at winning the nomination. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #6
It was not tailor made Kentonio Nov 2018 #440
Establishment, decades in the Senate. betsuni Nov 2018 #442
It was a 1-on-1 contest and he was *the* alternative to a polarizing candidate. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #446
Please don't try and re-write history. Kentonio Nov 2018 #561
Those dates you list are nearly a year before the 1st primary. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #567
Were you actually following the primaries? Kentonio Nov 2018 #592
Someone who's been in office since 1990 would hardly be "considered a complete outsider." betsuni Nov 2018 #593
And the 1st primary was nearly a year later, at which point it was a 1-on-1 race. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #594
By the time of the first primary, Bernie still had low name recognition in many parts of the country Kentonio Nov 2018 #595
I haven't denied that, but you're overemphasizing where things stood a year before Iowa. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #596
You seem to have forgotten the earlier part of the primary race Kentonio Nov 2018 #606
I always vote for a Democrat in any Democratic primary. LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #8
But ketchup is good realmirage Nov 2018 #9
Yeah, but it ain't spaghetti sauce either. LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #65
I love Whataburger Gothmog Nov 2018 #104
Dammit now I want whataburger realmirage Nov 2018 #109
I have a ton of Whataburger spicy ketschup packets that I ended using last night Gothmog Nov 2018 #331
Well OK then...nt SidDithers Nov 2018 #11
So we should be reasonable and do it your way? Wounded Bear Nov 2018 #13
Asking for a friend. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #14
Big tents win elections. That's the core realmirage Nov 2018 #15
You don't really want a big tent though qazplm135 Nov 2018 #26
I think they'd like the others in the tent to stop treating them like the enemy Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #346
I am not interested in qazplm135 Nov 2018 #353
Yes it is! OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #37
That kind of sounds like the point of the Democratic Party is to make Bernie "more effective." dawg day Nov 2018 #238
Absolutely agree. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #244
Your progessive seem to not want to vote for non-white candidates and may have helped elect DeSantis Gothmog Nov 2018 #334
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #518
So sanders was lying about his supporters not voting for African Americans? Gothmog Nov 2018 #519
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #521
Read this thread Gothmog Nov 2018 #524
Eric Swallwell Hekate Nov 2018 #362
Zombies! They are EVERYWHERE! Squinch Nov 2018 #144
gods yes they are Hekate Nov 2018 #471
As requested, I asked the young person in my house what he thinks of Bernie Sanders. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #16
Did you bother looking at the realmirage Nov 2018 #21
Where did my son get this idea? By using his critical thinking skills, methinks. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #70
You miss my point realmirage Nov 2018 #116
I did not miss your point, you are threatening Democrats... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #201
You can be righteously angry and Progressives who support Sanders can simply fail to show up Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #345
People who don't show up to stop Trump are not "progressives." Small-Axe Nov 2018 #347
I support: affordable healthcare; a living wage for all who work; affordable college; Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #355
I'm under the impression that this is a website for committed and loyal Democrats. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #356
Your impression is not quite correct Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #366
Threatening Democrats and engaging in blackmail isn't friendly. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #367
1) You aren't the least bit sorry. 2) With all due respect, I'm correct Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #370
I don't need lectures about building bridges from people who are actively threatening my party. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #371
Think less about party and more about issues Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #374
I do not require or desire your ongoing lectures. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #377
Welcome to DU Gothmog Nov 2018 #384
Thank you for the support and the welcome. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #387
Calm down no one is threatening anyone realmirage Nov 2018 #425
Not in the mood to be gaslighted. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #427
Again, just try to remain calm and chill with realmirage Nov 2018 #430
Stop your infantile games... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #434
The premise of the OP is offensive and is not designed for unity Gothmog Nov 2018 #451
You should take your own advice. Reality based input is not R B Garr Nov 2018 #460
Then you should quit flaming allies if you feel it's so important. R B Garr Nov 2018 #449
Peace be with you Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #391
"Eventually I'd disengage from politics altogether." Squinch Nov 2018 #369
Important point: "We need to think less about our vote as a statement about our individuality." betsuni Nov 2018 #421
It is called reality and facts Gothmog Nov 2018 #110
Did you read the article in my OP? realmirage Nov 2018 #117
Yes but the difference is that I understood it Gothmog Nov 2018 #138
Your headline gave me the best laugh so far today. Squinch Nov 2018 #146
The article did not support the claims of the OP Gothmog Nov 2018 #184
I know. It is funny because you are correct, and the poster who is insisting Squinch Nov 2018 #216
I seriously doubt that the OP read the article cited because such article does not support the OP Gothmog Nov 2018 #375
I think I read that 31% of them voted. That is an awesome increase over their average. Squinch Nov 2018 #378
The increase in the voting percentage of young and Latino voters make me smile Gothmog Nov 2018 #386
And Florida could be a surprise too, with Amendment Four. Squinch Nov 2018 #388
Felon Disenfranchisement is a very racist policy from Jim Crow days Gothmog Nov 2018 #473
+1000. Great points. nt ecstatic Nov 2018 #447
This article does not support the claims made in the OP Gothmog Nov 2018 #448
Mazie Hrono Hekate Nov 2018 #363
And I'd be curious to know realmirage Nov 2018 #121
You do know that russia helped sanders a great deal Gothmog Nov 2018 #129
How does this answer the question? realmirage Nov 2018 #132
sanders is not the only progressive Gothmog Nov 2018 #147
Your crystal ball says? realmirage Nov 2018 #150
I was a delegate to the national convention and I have a very different view of bernie Gothmog Nov 2018 #169
Dems should press Bernie on why he didn't act to stop disrespectful oasis Nov 2018 #222
sanders supporters think that such conduct was justified Gothmog Nov 2018 #336
Because you keep evading the obvious. Sanders holds the key himself. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #208
Amy Klobuchar Hekate Nov 2018 #399
Your question assumes we are all in agreement that BS is a progressive. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #420
It bothers me a great deal that Russia and Putin pushed sanders and helped him Gothmog Nov 2018 #603
Are you suggesting Sanders is the only progressive voice? Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #219
Apparently. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #277
Yeah... Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #278
;) sheshe2 Nov 2018 #289
Yes, it's the ideology. betsuni Nov 2018 #287
Kamala Harris Hekate Nov 2018 #398
I asked my youngster as requested. dawg day Nov 2018 #237
My 18 year old likes Harris, xmas74 Nov 2018 #557
I like your daughter! betsuni Nov 2018 #560
Thank you! xmas74 Nov 2018 #588
The notion that Bernie got Trump elected is patently absurd markpkessinger Nov 2018 #589
The progressive wing? Show me a strong center Dem who hasn't also held a progressive claim Bfd Nov 2018 #17
Do You Have A Clue As To Why There Is Spate Of These Threads Me. Nov 2018 #25
Oh yes. You are precisley right ME. No progressive on the planet can defend His recent comments & Bfd Nov 2018 #41
No progressive wing? The who the hell are these people? PassingFair Nov 2018 #51
When you omit an entire history of policy by the Democratic leaders & stand there claiming to be the Bfd Nov 2018 #55
THIS! EffieBlack Nov 2018 #94
You are on fire. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #125
But... Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #229
Haaha. Bfd Nov 2018 #240
Exactly! Very well said. R B Garr Nov 2018 #456
+ infinity! sheshe2 Nov 2018 #120
For many, HRC lost her credibility with Progressives when she voted for the IWR Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #348
Didn't Hillary herself admit that her vote for the IWR was a huge blunder? InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #492
Yes Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #531
. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #18
Big tent, remember? realmirage Nov 2018 #22
It's a huge tent, yet Bernie still can't seem to fit himself in it. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #33
So your plan to win without his supporters is? realmirage Nov 2018 #45
My plan is to support Democrats and our progressive platform. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #73
That's how we stop this nightmare. realmirage Nov 2018 #86
Why are you so sure that "his supporters" won't vote sensibly? dawg day Nov 2018 #269
why would we have to win without his supporters? qazplm135 Nov 2018 #276
BS still has two years to acquire the leadership skills necessary lapucelle Nov 2018 #283
Sheldon Whitehouse Hekate Nov 2018 #400
So your strategy to win without his supporters is? realmirage Nov 2018 #76
Is this another Bernie or Bust effort or something? MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #89
And tell me how it is wise realmirage Nov 2018 #101
No one is attacking them. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #163
Your usage of the word 'attack' is consistently wrong. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #232
Melodrama is the perfect word for it. betsuni Nov 2018 #255
Ted Lieu Hekate Nov 2018 #402
You win this whole thread with your series of replies... SidDithers Nov 2018 #419
You are very welcome Hekate Nov 2018 #426
That's EXACTLY what this is! You nailed it! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #127
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #284
Have you seen the OP's other threads? Hekate Nov 2018 #214
Tammy Duckworth Hekate Nov 2018 #401
LOVE, LOVE LOVE xmas74 Nov 2018 #558
Tammy is a great American hero & great Dem, but the only one who can save us, the OP says... Hekate Nov 2018 #559
My 18 year old can't stand him. xmas74 Nov 2018 #587
Good for her! Hekate Nov 2018 #590
An ego that large has trouble fitting through the door. Sad. Hekate Nov 2018 #510
Big, but not without standards. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #49
Then Sanders supporters should come inside LanternWaste Nov 2018 #71
Thank you. Bfd Nov 2018 #24
Can I kiss you? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #97
Hee! Anytime! WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #174
I love you! And... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #119
. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #175
+++ brer cat Nov 2018 #266
This...all of this Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #288
I'm curious, realmirage, and need to ask you at what point or what event Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #20
OH SNAP!!! Bucky Nov 2018 #31
I'm so glad you posted that realmirage Nov 2018 #36
Do you assume that "Sanders supporters" won't vote for the party's nominee... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #52
I'm questioning realmirage Nov 2018 #58
There's NOTHING "wise" about allowing NurseJackie Nov 2018 #78
Big tents win elections realmirage Nov 2018 #87
LOL NurseJackie Nov 2018 #103
I'll let you try and get the trump voters realmirage Nov 2018 #218
Oh brother! Nobody is "attacking" our "progressive allies". NurseJackie Nov 2018 #231
If what you describe is what actually happens here, I'd agree realmirage Nov 2018 #256
Nobody is attacking Sanders. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #270
To say nobody is attacking Sanders is the funniest thing I've heard all day. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #496
Keep laughing! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #503
You know perfectly well melman Nov 2018 #513
You know perfectly well he's not. It's pushback and holding his feet to the fire... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #515
Bernie has become some people's favorite "punching bag." It's gotten ridiculous around here. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #549
"Our progressive allies" are not restricted to Sanders supporters dawg day Nov 2018 #265
And who are loyal to the party. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #274
Beto O'Rourke Hekate Nov 2018 #405
Tents don't vote. People do. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #286
Absolutely.. no amount of coddling will change their minds Thekaspervote Nov 2018 #98
Bravo NurseJackie! Small-Axe Nov 2018 #204
The Parkland Students won't stay home. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #158
Joaquin Castro Hekate Nov 2018 #404
You are awesome. violetpastille Nov 2018 #412
Thank you very much. Also, Tom Udall. Hekate Nov 2018 #472
THIS 100% bluestarone Nov 2018 #62
Bingo! NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #257
If you're to be allowed the right to your opinions, then you must allow Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #54
None of this is a good excuse to attack progressive Democrats realmirage Nov 2018 #220
I would strongly suggest taking a deep breath and stepping back for a moment Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #243
If you think no one here attacks progressives and Sanders regularly you must not be here very often realmirage Nov 2018 #253
If such threads exist... Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #262
"If such threads exist..." Lordy, lordy shanny Nov 2018 #321
He's already demonstrated a marked inability Codeine Nov 2018 #69
Richard Blumenthal Hekate Nov 2018 #403
Whoops! EffieBlack Nov 2018 #99
Can We Say... LovingA2andMI Nov 2018 #462
Easy to find..it's all in his/her open-to-the-public journal. Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #463
"United we stand, remember?" --- There's nothing unifying about... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #23
It sounds like a threat to me. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #32
Big tent in 2020. That's the core of realmirage Nov 2018 #38
There's nothing unifying about his slams and smears against the Democratic party. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #47
Big tent realmirage Nov 2018 #124
Nope. Democrats are smarter than that. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #142
I still haven't heard what your strategy is realmirage Nov 2018 #145
You wrongly assume that Bernie supporters are the ONLY path to victory. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #160
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #529
Brian Schatz Hekate Nov 2018 #406
Clinton did win Gothmog Nov 2018 #122
How does Sanders win without democrats? Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #131
If sanders was the nominee, the party would lose the support of key demographic groups Gothmog Nov 2018 #188
Nope. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #209
This is terribly divisive and defeatist. realmirage Nov 2018 #224
You need to take the word "real" brer cat Nov 2018 #315
+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #317
These progressive types appear to have helped DeSantis win in Florida Gothmog Nov 2018 #333
Threats of boycotts by this group are also divisive Gothmog Nov 2018 #332
Aunty Maxine Hekate Nov 2018 #407
He can't win without those groups. He can't win the nomination, that's for damn sure. And... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #245
+1000 mercuryblues Nov 2018 #40
We needed you in 2016. nt TeamPooka Nov 2018 #29
See Post #20 for realmirage's comments on Bernie in 2016. Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #35
Yes, and see my reply realmirage Nov 2018 #42
Per your former position on Bernie, TeamPooka would not have wanted or needed your opinion in 2016. Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #236
I'm living in the here and now. We need to win in 2020 realmirage Nov 2018 #248
Cory Booker Hekate Nov 2018 #408
I'd vote for him too realmirage Nov 2018 #568
Anyone too dumb to vote for the Democratic nominee Codeine Nov 2018 #30
You are going to need me. See how that works?? boston bean Nov 2018 #34
Exactly. We need each other to win. realmirage Nov 2018 #43
I don't hold my vote over people heads. If people who call themselves democrats boston bean Nov 2018 #53
Does that justify attacking them regularly? realmirage Nov 2018 #72
Umm yeah. I don't take kindly to the attack of extortion. boston bean Nov 2018 #77
Asking people to be inclusive realmirage Nov 2018 #83
Oh yes it is. boston bean Nov 2018 #102
Attacking your own allies is wise how? realmirage Nov 2018 #107
That is what I would like to know. boston bean Nov 2018 #164
So why are you attacking your erstwhile allies? ..... Tammy Baldwin Hekate Nov 2018 #417
It's not the mainstream Dems that keep bringing up bernie!! It's those that support him and want Thekaspervote Nov 2018 #115
We're not holding our votes hostage Codeine Nov 2018 #57
We are not threatening to not vote treestar Nov 2018 #192
We at DU, spend a lot of time on this kind of . . . stuff empedocles Nov 2018 #39
But, happily, in this thread it's just one guy having a tantrum and EVERYONE else Squinch Nov 2018 #173
Thank you, saved me time empedocles Nov 2018 #206
So you are making your support conditional to leverage your grantcart Nov 2018 #44
All I'm saying is don't realmirage Nov 2018 #48
Defending oneself from an attack is not attacking. It is defending. boston bean Nov 2018 #60
Can you honestly say realmirage Nov 2018 #67
I see lots of posts about him criticizing the party. boston bean Nov 2018 #74
I want the right realmirage Nov 2018 #80
Because they are the extorters!!! boston bean Nov 2018 #84
Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #165
The progressive wing of the party has a problem with perception and... LincolnRossiter Nov 2018 #46
Bernie or bust was the stupidest realmirage Nov 2018 #50
I'll take your word for it, but there certainly millions of progressives... LincolnRossiter Nov 2018 #59
And do we want to be just like them? realmirage Nov 2018 #63
Who the hell said they wanted to "be like them?" LincolnRossiter Nov 2018 #66
Until he commits to proudly wear the Democratic Paty label, then he isn't a valid consideration Bfd Nov 2018 #64
I got your message realimage... it's a good one. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #493
Oh, is it time for the "be nice to us or we won't vote for Democrats" threats again? mcar Nov 2018 #56
"Ask not what the Democratic Party can do for you," stopbush Nov 2018 #61
Boom! True! This! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #81
We need candidates that let people belive government can and should do good things for them. brewens Nov 2018 #68
He's not getting the nomination. There is no way. ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #75
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #79
You are absolutely wrong on the DNC RULES Bfd Nov 2018 #82
And how easy is it to join the Party? realmirage Nov 2018 #91
Yup. That thinking is straight out of the DeVine/Manafort playbook. Bfd Nov 2018 #108
I just debunked that realmirage Nov 2018 #113
No you didn't. He's got some rules to comply with that he's not willing to do. Bfd Nov 2018 #140
LOL. No you have not Gothmog Nov 2018 #602
Yes elleng Nov 2018 #85
I was a delegate to the national convention and I have a very different view of bernie Gothmog Nov 2018 #88
You know who votes Demwolv Nov 2018 #92
Yep Gothmog Nov 2018 #95
Exactly. Demwolv Nov 2018 #105
I like both Senator Harris and Senator Booker Gothmog Nov 2018 #114
Agreed!! Demwolv Nov 2018 #118
One was also just elected who holds all the cards for ending a political travesty BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #136
African American women voters are very important to the party Gothmog Nov 2018 #182
And how does this answer the problem realmirage Nov 2018 #199
They have... Demwolv Nov 2018 #203
Anyone who is politically active and chooses to not vote in 2020 dansolo Nov 2018 #268
I have a question. How many Sanders/OR backed candidates won their primaries, or the GE? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #294
The reality is that we live in a 2 party system where it's either the Democrat or the Republican. elocs Nov 2018 #96
I can't tell you how much more weight this would carry with one change: Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #100
Whoopsie! (Good catch!) NurseJackie Nov 2018 #106
It's aimed at those who are attacking progressives realmirage Nov 2018 #126
LOL! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #148
Your angry, mocking tone does not help your argument realmirage Nov 2018 #154
LOL! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #162
I have seen no attack on progressives on DU...and I resent the fact that Sander's supporters Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #177
Try harder at aiming if you want to persuade somebody. Anybody. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #202
Yes we do. Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #111
Is this a threat. If a certain group doesn't get their way, let Trump have it and keep all us in Wintryjade Nov 2018 #112
This. Demwolv Nov 2018 #123
That is how I see it. As poorly as AOC has behaved to establishment Democrats, fighting against Wintryjade Nov 2018 #134
Precisely. Demwolv Nov 2018 #170
"Don't get me wrong, Hillary has her flaws," Why do we have to do this, before saying something good Wintryjade Nov 2018 #187
I am a woman. Demwolv Nov 2018 #193
I do not even know how to reply, but, O.K. I hear ya. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #195
Not very "woman-friendly"? namahage Nov 2018 #382
Did you read the article in the OP? realmirage Nov 2018 #130
I am not concerned about Sanders. He does not have the support or vote and we are two years out. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #149
Well said Wintryjade! Greywing Nov 2018 #502
Would be more dangerous Demwolv Nov 2018 #168
I did and think it is nonsense. Dems win because of our diverse coalition and Sander's has made Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #181
Read the link in the OP. realmirage Nov 2018 #143
They are not gonna vote if they do not get their way. You accuse me of attacking? Lol Wintryjade Nov 2018 #151
Not about getting their way, it's about not attacking them realmirage Nov 2018 #155
They are not voting if they do not get their way. I am going to call that out. Seriously? Wintryjade Nov 2018 #159
I think you need to re-read that link you are referring everyone to. It doesn't say Squinch Nov 2018 #157
It won't be a coronation to the nomination. sorry. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #128
So attacking our allies regularly is the strategy? realmirage Nov 2018 #135
It all depends on your point of view. I see YOU as the one attacking our allies. And Squinch Nov 2018 #156
Let history be our guide. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #550
Historically, divided parties lose realmirage Nov 2018 #572
People who only post divisive posts? Probably not. Squinch Nov 2018 #133
In 2016 every young person I know said they were voting for Bernie. blueinredohio Nov 2018 #137
Times change. And had he ran last time, I don't think he wins...the GOP will demonize a Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #171
The media won't give him the kid-glove treatment that he's accustomed to. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #186
And he ran as a Democrat and then changed back to independent after the most recent Vermont Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #207
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #522
I agree and disagree with some of the things you've said Bettie Nov 2018 #141
Thank you for your wise and fair response. realmirage Nov 2018 #196
I am very happy to see the trouncing your bullshit post got in this thread, realmirage. Squinch Nov 2018 #152
And only 21 recs... compared to the "into-the-sunset" post with 192 recs... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #233
I think for even some of the biggest fans, the bloom is off the rose. Thank the gods. Squinch Nov 2018 #291
Sad to see people who can't recover from a loss realmirage Nov 2018 #352
Loss? What are you talking about? NurseJackie Nov 2018 #357
Why, namahage Nov 2018 #528
In the contrary, I must have hit a nerve realmirage Nov 2018 #351
Clearly you did hit a nerve. It was the nerve in which people are sick to death of Squinch Nov 2018 #365
Nicely put. (nt) Paladin Nov 2018 #481
The only progressives who have been driven out of here murielm99 Nov 2018 #379
"Into the sunset" has FOUR TIMES as many recs as this OP does... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #470
I like Sanders, but too old. Same with Biden. Let's get someone younger. I really like Steve LBM20 Nov 2018 #153
A young progressive would be awesome. realmirage Nov 2018 #197
Kamala Harris, Joaquin Castro, Cory Booker, Beto O'Rourke, Eric Swallwell, Adam Schiff Hekate Nov 2018 #411
I would support Joe if he ran Gothmog Nov 2018 #475
We needed people like you in 2016 too. Captain Stern Nov 2018 #161
Boom! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #293
How many threats (take ball and go home" are going to have to endure before 20 I wonder...trash Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #166
We know that disgruntled Sanders supporters MontanaMama Nov 2018 #167
Yep Gothmog Nov 2018 #172
Interesting numbers I had not seen it. We knew of course Especially with open/caucuses. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #198
Or maybe those Sanders voters voted for Trump because they wanted Trump violetpastille Nov 2018 #190
I didn't know that. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #249
I'd love to hear your strategy for how we win without realmirage Nov 2018 #247
Reality is that Bernie is not a Democrat. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #258
All I'm saying is I think it would be wise for us to unite now rather than realmirage Nov 2018 #261
Every single thread MontanaMama Nov 2018 #267
Strawman. Valid criticism about his dumb statements on race isn't "attacking progressives" emulatorloo Nov 2018 #176
We need all the support we can get Rizen Nov 2018 #178
And you're definitely going to need the Democratic Party. calimary Nov 2018 #179
I am so sick of this "support Bernie or I'll take my toys and go home" crap. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #185
I absolutely DESPISE these Sanders fights GitRDun Nov 2018 #189
EXACTLY. That's my whole point. We need to unite realmirage Nov 2018 #200
You want us to unite by accepting a candidate who is not acceptable to the base Gothmog Nov 2018 #337
I look every day for your OPs -- thanks for posting! obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #210
Why do I feel like DU is getting a wedgie with all these posts? Asking for a friend, doncha know.nt Hekate Nov 2018 #211
That time of the season Andy823 Nov 2018 #226
Is that some sort of threat? Really? MineralMan Nov 2018 #223
Asking people to stop attacking progressive realmirage Nov 2018 #225
Who is doing that? Most of us have a preference MineralMan Nov 2018 #227
The OP keeps posting threads like this obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #272
Sanders isn't a Democrat... Adrahil Nov 2018 #230
Asking people to stop attacking Democrats and the Democratic Party is common sense period. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #246
Inviting "progressives" into our Big Tent, rather taking the tent to them... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #254
BEYOND common sense... which is why I fear the non-stop bashing of Bernie will go on. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #495
Before I trash this thread, saidsimplesimon Nov 2018 #228
Well yourebin luck, Glamrock Nov 2018 #242
Not again :sigh: NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #241
thanks for the bump realmirage Nov 2018 #251
LOL! NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #259
That reminds me, I need to buy pickles. betsuni Nov 2018 #250
. Squinch Nov 2018 #290
Woe is me MyNameGoesHere Nov 2018 #252
Left wing populism can be as toxic as right wing populism. They both need a boogeyman. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #263
Precisely correct. Populism is toxic. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #281
All this UNITED talk Bernie people say only applies to others listening to them nini Nov 2018 #264
Co-sign, brother. LincolnRossiter Nov 2018 #275
... lapucelle Nov 2018 #279
Why do people on this board think we decide wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #285
I appreciate your efforts here, but this audience is incapable of listening. stranger81 Nov 2018 #292
+1 melman Nov 2018 #295
If you bothered to read post #20, you'd find that the o.p. was one of those "fuck you(s)" in 2016. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #296
Dems really don't need outsiders who think they get to set the rules nini Nov 2018 #298
Yeah, who needs voters right? realmirage Nov 2018 #301
The ones I'm talking about aren't reachable nini Nov 2018 #324
Maybe I have too much faith in people realmirage Nov 2018 #300
Oh, yeah, right. That's why so much of Bernie's platform became the official Democratic platform. pnwmom Nov 2018 #305
'Because the party is incapable of listening.' melman Nov 2018 #308
Someone said this "audience" is incapable of listening. I presume s/he was referring to DU, pnwmom Nov 2018 #309
Others? melman Nov 2018 #311
Other progressives who are capable of listening. n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #312
This is a board for Democrats melman Nov 2018 #313
I am being inclusive. Some people who belong to no particular party share progressive goals pnwmom Nov 2018 #314
I see melman Nov 2018 #340
What is the point of this inquisition? n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #344
The base of the party in my state is African Americans. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #297
Well with trump you'll certainly get nothing realmirage Nov 2018 #302
Since almost all 'progressives', however you define that word, GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #323
I guess you didn't read the op at all? realmirage Nov 2018 #571
and progressives cannot win without Dems n/t Greywing Nov 2018 #507
Right, and we're having this conversation because some folks have decided an indefensible comment.. JHan Nov 2018 #316
And YOU are going to need Hillary supporters. They're no more thrilled with Bernie pnwmom Nov 2018 #303
Agreed. You made the same point I did. realmirage Nov 2018 #306
Maybe he should become a Democrat? JNelson6563 Nov 2018 #304
Posts like this, you mean posts explaining we need realmirage Nov 2018 #307
You do know that the DNC rules have been changed Gothmog Nov 2018 #339
Sanders could go a long way to uniting us.... Adrahil Nov 2018 #350
The Progressives are a vital part of the Democratic Party bobGandolf Nov 2018 #310
Agreed! I'm glad some people understand realmirage Nov 2018 #354
Nice party ya got there. murielm99 Nov 2018 #318
Yes, we are being threathened Gothmog Nov 2018 #335
I define Radical Progressives as, ... bobGandolf Nov 2018 #604
I can't really think about it yet JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #319
PS I haven't been around JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #320
I love and admire Sanders! ananda Nov 2018 #325
No, you're going to need people like me... AkFemDem Nov 2018 #326
Whether one likes it or not because of what happened, Bernie and Hillary are divisionary to some still_one Nov 2018 #359
Adam Schiff Hekate Nov 2018 #361
Right. liberal N proud Nov 2018 #376
Bernie threads are likes buses. If you miss one there will be another one along in ten minutes. dameatball Nov 2018 #380
So true. dhol82 Nov 2018 #395
This is turning into the Oscar or Kudzu thread underpants Nov 2018 #381
But this thread is nonsense without the humor. betsuni Nov 2018 #418
If only. A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2018 #436
underpants Nov 2018 #439
Except sadly contentious; we need humor. Until then I'm happy to continue listing actual Democrats Hekate Nov 2018 #474
Are you saying we need to vote for Sanders in the primary, MoonRiver Nov 2018 #383
Glad you've figured out that you're better off trying to expand the tent... namahage Nov 2018 #389
I think he's just the Energizer Bunny of wedge issues. I can name a dozen great Dems ... Hekate Nov 2018 #415
Sanders and progressives in general realmirage Nov 2018 #424
Ed Markey Hekate Nov 2018 #432
He is my Senator! sheshe2 Nov 2018 #499
So holding feet to the fire and earning votes is bad now? betsuni Nov 2018 #437
Well, you'd THINK that would be the case, wouldn't you? NurseJackie Nov 2018 #458
So if I attacked Hillary and her supporters realmirage Nov 2018 #574
WhataboutHillary WhataboutHillary WhataboutHillary betsuni Nov 2018 #586
No they don't... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #457
That was right on. People who plan to betray realmirage Nov 2018 #423
Sanders lost the Primaries, right? brooklynite Nov 2018 #413
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Afromania Nov 2018 #414
What you said Hekate Nov 2018 #416
+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #422
You were on the mark until realmirage Nov 2018 #428
Kamala Harris. Cory Booker. Joaquin Castro. Hekate Nov 2018 #435
What's being attacked, if anything, is the myopic focus some Bernie backers have for him. Afromania Nov 2018 #438
Great post Gothmog Nov 2018 #444
From the FWIW Dept (For What Its Worth) Stonepounder Nov 2018 #429
If only everyone could put aside their realmirage Nov 2018 #433
That's not how it works. The first thing that needs to happen... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #461
I don't respond to angry, bitter posts. realmirage Nov 2018 #464
Clearly I've touched a VERY sensitive nerve. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #465
This is from the OP who is threatening to help re-elect trump? Gothmog Nov 2018 #487
These types of threats are very Sarandonesque, aren't they? NurseJackie Nov 2018 #512
I agree Gothmog Nov 2018 #517
Al Franken Hekate Nov 2018 #546
No way realmirage Nov 2018 #569
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Nov 2018 #431
Been there, done that and he lost. Sunsky Nov 2018 #441
No one but you mentioned the primaries. realmirage Nov 2018 #508
Re-read your post Sunsky Nov 2018 #530
I'm not sure why it's difficult to understand realmirage Nov 2018 #575
My allies vote for Democrats Sunsky Nov 2018 #578
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #443
LOL, the election results clearly show that it is actually *you* R B Garr Nov 2018 #450
It's "we" realmirage Nov 2018 #476
Your OP title speaks for itself. You are dividing R B Garr Nov 2018 #500
... betsuni Nov 2018 #452
There's never a bad time for a little Monty Python! :-D NurseJackie Nov 2018 #453
Eye--Roll.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2018 #459
Thanks for the bump realmirage Nov 2018 #467
It was not a bump... LovingA2andMI Nov 2018 #483
Thanks again realmirage Nov 2018 #485
Elijah Cummings Hekate Nov 2018 #509
... LexVegas Nov 2018 #466
Thanks for the bump realmirage Nov 2018 #468
... LexVegas Nov 2018 #469
Kirsten Gillibrand Hekate Nov 2018 #545
+1 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #479
We will win this thing together. That's the only way. realmirage Nov 2018 #484
+1000 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #486
So true!! Should be so simple to see... divided we fall. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #494
Please explain how unity is achieved when someone claims the Democratic party is "corrupt". NurseJackie Nov 2018 #511
Elizabeth Warren Hekate Nov 2018 #539
She's good too. realmirage Nov 2018 #565
The OP is wrong about the new DNC rule Gothmog Nov 2018 #488
You keep saying that but you haven't provided realmirage Nov 2018 #491
Do you tire of being wrong? Gothmog Nov 2018 #497
Tim Kaine Hekate Nov 2018 #537
Translation: You do what I want or I'll take my ball and go home! FSogol Nov 2018 #514
That is what I see from the BoBs liberal N proud Nov 2018 #534
Sounds like you're making a threat, kid... Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #525
This liberal N proud Nov 2018 #532
Straight up Small-Axe Nov 2018 #551
Hilarious. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #563
Not youth, but those who are so radicalized that they will only vote for their candidate... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #566
Repeating the same thing twice doesn't make it any more sensible. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #570
I agree, repeating nonsense doesn't make nonsense more sensible. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #573
Agree. Hortensis Nov 2018 #600
We're gonna need people like you, you're gonna need people like us. CASE CLOSED. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #536
BASTA! I think young people spoke loud and clear in the mid-terms ... Greywing Nov 2018 #540
Right on realmirage Nov 2018 #562
Really? xmas74 Nov 2018 #555
What is so perfect about this thread realmirage Nov 2018 #564
What is a "Democratic Ally"? violetpastille Nov 2018 #577
I think it's self explanatory realmirage Nov 2018 #581
I Believe that's the definition of a Democrat. violetpastille Nov 2018 #583
That would also qualify. realmirage Nov 2018 #599
Which means those who don't for Democrats are not allies. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #584
I think I get it.. violetpastille Nov 2018 #585
Kind of sounds like a threat. I don't do threats. Justice Nov 2018 #580
I Love Bernie! lovemydogs Nov 2018 #582
: ) realmirage Nov 2018 #591
I guess people need a reminder since realmirage Nov 2018 #598
There are only two groups being discussed, Real. Hortensis Nov 2018 #601
sanders will not be the nominee of the party despite your threats Gothmog Nov 2018 #605
How transparent is Bernie Sanders on his tax returns? Gothmog Jan 2019 #609
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