And how did running against Pelosi (Reply #97)

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Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:23 AM

thucythucy (5,652 posts)

97. And how did running against Pelosi

work for Republicans in 2018?

BTW--Clinton won the popular vote by three million. Which in any other context would have been a landslide.

It wasn't "the political strategies and personnel of the '90s" that did us in. It was voter suppression, Comey's unethical intrusion into the election, and Russian hacking and collusion with the Trump campaign that gave us the current monstrosity.

"Moving forward" shouldn't mean ignoring criminal activity by blaming the victims of that activity.

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118 replies	Author	Time	Post
Do Democrats want Nancy Pelosi as speaker again? Poll finds more prefer 'someone else.' [View all]	Baconator	Nov 2018	OP
Do Democrats want Nancy Pelosi as speaker again? YES !	stonecutter357	Nov 2018	#1
I don't	metroins	Nov 2018	#23
Can you name a single Democratic leader	thucythucy	Nov 2018	#24
+1	Crutchez_CuiBono	Nov 2018	#56
I agree that whoever the speaker was he/she would be vilified by the right	awesomerwb1	Nov 2018	#62
Republicans all across the country ran against Pelosi this past midterm	thucythucy	Nov 2018	#95
We can agree to disagree	awesomerwb1	Nov 2018	#115
I think Pelosi has more "baggage"	metroins	Nov 2018	#66
Until Pelosi became Speaker, I doubt she was widely known outside her district. We don't let......	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2018	#89
That didn't seem to do them any good	thucythucy	Nov 2018	#96
So what. Pelosi's not running for national office. Stop with arguments repugs have made.	brush	Nov 2018	#106
Who do you name as someone who would do a better job?	Squinch	Nov 2018	#53
Whoever steps up against her....	metroins	Nov 2018	#63
So anyone is better in your mind than Pelosi? Anyone who might "step up against her"?	Squinch	Nov 2018	#73
Well, yeah.	namahage	Nov 2018	#80
Your criteria is our Speaker needs to be liked by the right?	Squinch	Nov 2018	#81
Not MY criteria. Maybe I should have used one of those "smilies"...	namahage	Nov 2018	#82
And I had concentrated on your "doesn't rile the right" and kind of slid past	Squinch	Nov 2018	#84
We will have to see who steps.	metroins	Nov 2018	#88
Why not? And it would be nice if someone who opposes Pelosi could give a	Squinch	Nov 2018	#91
I'm sure the Dems in the House are taking note that you're not in favor.	brush	Nov 2018	#107
you must be very young	chillfactor	Nov 2018	#55
Oh jesus...	metroins	Nov 2018	#64
I agree with you.	susanna	Nov 2018	#99
I agree...	BlueJac	Nov 2018	#58
Because they know she can kick their asses when she holds the gavel.	2naSalit	Nov 2018	#69
How did the political strategies and personnel of the 90s...	Baconator	Nov 2018	#75
And how did running against Pelosi	thucythucy	Nov 2018	#97
You would rather a speaker that was not on republican commercials? You would prefer	Squinch	Nov 2018	#77
Get a clue. You saw her on many repug commercials but who won the election.	brush	Nov 2018	#108
They'll vilify ANYONE on our side, BUT I just simply think it is time for a CHANGE. Time for new	LBM20	Nov 2018	#71
She's an older woman and the left eat their own.	Charlotte Little	Nov 2018	#100
Well said. nt	DURHAM D	Nov 2018	#110
Can't believe someone on DU fell for repug talking points.	brush	Nov 2018	#105
Yes Please! Go Nancy Go!	WA-03 Democrat	Nov 2018	#101
Anyone but a strong, qualified, experienced woman. Hmmm...where have I heard that before. n/t	CincyDem	Nov 2018	#2
It seems like decades-long Anti-Pelosi campaign of FOX News & GOP is as successful as Anti-Clinton.	TheBlackAdder	Nov 2018	#87
Meh...	Baconator	Nov 2018	#92
Wake up. The discussion is over. Repugs ran against her in the election...	brush	Nov 2018	#109
This Democrat Does. An Emphatic: YES!!!	Small-Axe	Nov 2018	#3
Oh EMM Effing Gee!	UncleTomsEvilBrother	Nov 2018	#4
Hey...	Baconator	Nov 2018	#14
+1	2naSalit	Nov 2018	#70
That pot's not going to stir itself	gratuitous	Nov 2018	#5
Of course the post is also breathlessly reporting on the challenge between McCarthy and Jordan...	brooklynite	Nov 2018	#49
Since that vote has already happened, and Jordan lost by a large margin	gratuitous	Nov 2018	#57
They were reporting up to the vote. Is there a fixed number of stories that are acceptable?	brooklynite	Nov 2018	#67
Baloney. We want Pelosi.	apcalc	Nov 2018	#6
So tired of these anti-Nancy posts. What polls? Who cares whether repukes approve or not? n/t	monmouth4	Nov 2018	#7
I would suggest that the Republican thoughts on the matter ...	Baconator	Nov 2018	#10
Who polls???	Skidmore	Nov 2018	#8
Monmouth	Baconator	Nov 2018	#11
I didn't know her fellow Reps voted via Monmouth for Speaker	obamanut2012	Nov 2018	#26
Literally no one is suggesting that..	Baconator	Nov 2018	#39
Is that the same rabbit hole that contains the subjective and meaningless phrases	LanternWaste	Nov 2018	#45
I want and we need	FarPoint	Nov 2018	#9
Pelosi can't be a big enough pain in the ass for Trump!	dubyadiprecession	Nov 2018	#12
He's salivating at the thought I'm sure...	Baconator	Nov 2018	#13
This message was self-deleted by its author	Iggo	Nov 2018	#15
Ahh....the mythical "Someone Else"	genxlib	Nov 2018	#16
On my fantasy team, that'd be Dak Prescott.	Iggo	Nov 2018	#17
oh crap, your someone else is a he? And I thought 36 percent of us were on the same page. nt	JCanete	Nov 2018	#30
Also, popular prom date	jberryhill	Nov 2018	#44
On the proverbial "Generic Ballot" I'll bet.	NurseJackie	Nov 2018	#47
Who cares? They've swallowed the hater Kool-aid. They have no idea how she functions	pnwmom	Nov 2018	#18
Pelosi against Nobody? Pelosi wins haha	at140	Nov 2018	#19
and right on time, here you are.	JHan	Nov 2018	#20
Hello...	Baconator	Nov 2018	#38
hi.	JHan	Nov 2018	#40
LOL!	sheshe2	Nov 2018	#102
I'd prefer FDR as speaker (he qualifies as 'someone else'), but as he's not available...	LanternWaste	Nov 2018	#21
23% yes, 36% no, and 41% don't care.	Iggo	Nov 2018	#22
As far as who gets a vote, the repugs submit their choice also to be voted on.,,	brush	Nov 2018	#111
Who do Democrats want? The reincarnation of Sam Rayburn?	NewJeffCT	Nov 2018	#25
Yes we need fresh face and ideas	Chickensoup	Nov 2018	#27
I think we need effectiveness, smart and experience.	Wintryjade	Nov 2018	#29
Elijah Cummings: Nancy has been battled tested..	Cha	Nov 2018	#104
Name me one fresh idea and which stale idea it would replace.	Iggo	Nov 2018	#34
Post removed	Post removed	Nov 2018	#43
LOL...that didn't take long.	Iggo	Nov 2018	#46
So other than your post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy	LanternWaste	Nov 2018	#48
Also, now that I've thought for a minute about all the things you listed...	Iggo	Nov 2018	#52
Stop Worrying about the Damn gop. We	Cha	Nov 2018	#103
Same with HRC. Incredibly high polls in performance of SOS. Pelosi is off the charts in performance	Wintryjade	Nov 2018	#28
I go with the "no opinion" plurality, given those choices.	David__77	Nov 2018	#31
what are the alternatives?	AlexSFCA	Nov 2018	#32
So far, "someone else" seems to be almost as popular as "don't care."	Iggo	Nov 2018	#37
That's part of my point...	Baconator	Nov 2018	#93
Guess you never heard of Schiff, Cummings, Sanchez, Swalwell, Waters?	brush	Nov 2018	#113
Maybe... but then why the clamoring that Pelosi is the ONLY person...	Baconator	Nov 2018	#116
I'm with Pelosi. Just pushing back on the argument that no one else has been groomed...	brush	Nov 2018	#117
Can you point us towards anyone at all alleging she's the only person who can do the job?	LanternWaste	Nov 2018	#118
I'd be willing to bet over half the participants in that poll don't know who Nancy Pelosi is and,..	DonViejo	Nov 2018	#33
And they don't have a clue what she does.	LiberalFighter	Nov 2018	#60
Yep. Right you are! And ultimately, those clueless ones could care less about what she does. eom	DonViejo	Nov 2018	#68
Man oh man! This is a full court press! n/t	Greybnk48	Nov 2018	#35
I think some Democrats have fallen for GOP messaging.	octoberlib	Nov 2018	#36
I think some GOP are pretending to be Democrats, and some really dumb Democrats are	Squinch	Nov 2018	#79
"We can't have one smart tough cookie as Speaker! It would make us look out-of-touch	struggle4progress	Nov 2018	#41
Just stop.	we can do it	Nov 2018	#42
I think you're right. This may simply be another exercise in long division.	LanternWaste	Nov 2018	#50
It absolutely is.	Iggo	Nov 2018	#54
Pelosi should be Speaker. She's earned it, she's worked for it and she's good at it. Moulton	Raven	Nov 2018	#51
We don't get to decide. And rightly so.	LiberalFighter	Nov 2018	#59
I am for Pelosi	MacKasey	Nov 2018	#61
Maybe.....	Turbineguy	Nov 2018	#65
Cheri Bustros would be a good choice. We should have someone new. Time for a change.	LBM20	Nov 2018	#72
They polled 800 people.	lpbk2713	Nov 2018	#74
It is not decided by a poll.	guillaumeb	Nov 2018	#76
I guess I'd be in the 41%	Yonnie3	Nov 2018	#78
I'm not worried.	Kurt V.	Nov 2018	#83
More Republican talking points...	pecosbob	Nov 2018	#85
And I have to ask "why?"	GWC58	Nov 2018	#86
IOW, 64 percent of "Democrats" either want Pelosi or don't much care. Meanwhile, 36 percent want...	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2018	#90
72% R disapproval is good enough for me	Hermit-The-Prog	Nov 2018	#94
+1000	Greywing	Nov 2018	#98
She definitely won't be cowed by Trump	Historic NY	Nov 2018	#112
What's important is what her constituents think of her, and her peers in the House.	ehrnst	Nov 2018	#114

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