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Awsi Dooger

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16. She would have won narrowly minus Comey

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 12:38 AM

Nov 2018

Maybe 1-1.5 points more in the popular vote and therefore dragging those pivotal states and the electoral college along.

Comey changed the outcome but Hillary's lead was always overstated in polling. The white working class vote was not factored properly in either participation or percentage. Similar to Florida this year where the polling assumed greater Democratic participation but the electorate was older and more white than any of the models allowed.

Regardless, grantcart is correct regarding name and fatigue. Anyone else saying the same things as Hillary would have been viewed as a revelation. Reaction would have been through the roof when Candidate A dismissed Trump as a Putin "puppet" during debate.

Tired conventional wisdom doesn't fit Beto at all...not with whether or not he should run, and not regarding how he would fare.

Anyone who holds that conventional wisdom needs to quietly throw it away. It won't hurt and eventually you'll look smart.

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Beto O'Rourke is going to run and Beto O'Rourke is going to win. We need a Beto O'Rourke (Group) [View all] grantcart Nov 2018 OP

I'm in. jcgoldie Nov 2018 #1

Great idea. I hope he runs. Autumn Nov 2018 #2

I'd be thrilled with Beto either leading of being VP on the ticket. bearsfootball516 Nov 2018 #3

Good suggestion. Would go a long ways towards educating us on DU about this candidate, but ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #4

We actually have 15 Groups for different candidates grantcart Nov 2018 #10

Thanks so much for FYI! Take care, nt SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #15

I think it would be great if he would run. Let's see what he can do. I'm in. vsrazdem Nov 2018 #5

I really admire him...lord knows...I just hope he's not a bit premature. libdem4life Nov 2018 #6

Clinton did win. I don't care who is sitting in the office right now. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #7

+1 jcgoldie Nov 2018 #8

and I agree with you 100% grantcart Nov 2018 #11

Clinton lost because of James Comey. Without his illegitimate actions she would have won easily. StevieM Nov 2018 #9

She would have won narrowly minus Comey Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #16

First of all, if HRC had won by 1-1.5 more in the popular vote she also would have won Florida. StevieM Nov 2018 #19

I could go there. He campaigns like fury, has "the fire," and is charismatic. VOX Nov 2018 #12

Iam beginning to agree with you............ Old Vet Nov 2018 #14

I'm there. (with bells on) pamela Nov 2018 #13

He will bring tremendous energy and star power to the campaign dalton99a Nov 2018 #17

I'm all for getting all this Beto stuff out of GD and into its own group. Beto is a huge long shot TeamPooka Nov 2018 #18

I'm in because I'm curious. nolabear Nov 2018 #20

Dunno. moondust Nov 2018 #21

A Beto O'Rourke group would be a great idea. andym Nov 2018 #22