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BlueWI

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57. This is the very reason why more discussion is needed.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:05 AM
Dec 2018

War crimes in Panama.

Iran-Contra pardons and free reign given to secret operations to destabilize other countries without accountability.

Corruption in defense procurement that the current military budget is still rife with.

Not just the mere fact of Clarence Thomas, but replacing the greatest pro-civil rights justice of all (Thurgood Marshall) with a political hack that personally supervised the gutting of civil rights enforcement through his hostile supervision of primary federal agency charged with this task.

Willie Horton ad - the cynical use of the baldest Nixonian Southern strategy in the wake of the negative impact of Reaganomics on black lives.

Launching the war against Kuwait on MLK's birthday: January 15, 1991.

Embodying the leveraging of diplomatic relationships for personal gain, most clearly embodied by his relationship with the Saudi royal family.

Embodying the worst excesses of a patrician attitude that erects a wall between himself and ordinary people. At least Nixon walked out of the White House and talked to antiwar protesters. No way Bush would have done that.

Unremitting drug war rhetoric, even as cocaine trade profits were being redirected to mysterious sources.

This is all just from memory, without any sourcing. I very much disagree that GHWB was inoffensive, even though there are some additional, or alternative, sordid records that come from the GWB and Trump administrations.

Sometimes I try to stay silent while segregationists and patrician politicians are buried, but people should not be criticized for simply bringing up a person's political record. In fact, more people should be striving to understand such records. Or are we really down for letting false history stand?

Thank you! PJMcK Dec 2018 #1
k&R BlueJac Dec 2018 #2
There's nothing to be gained by doing that wryter2000 Dec 2018 #3
In the immediate context of his passing? Unlikely. FBaggins Dec 2018 #4
Not *this* day since we are required not to speak ill of the dead... Baltimike Dec 2018 #5
It has been said and is being said but his funeral is not the time. onit2day Dec 2018 #61
He was also interviewed on Seth Meyers' show this week: Rhiannon12866 Dec 2018 #63
... LexVegas Dec 2018 #6
Thank you! llmart Dec 2018 #7
Don't forget Clarence Thomas. DeeDeeNY Dec 2018 #8
Bush gave in to the extreme conservatives Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #9
I dislike all Republicans on principle...but he passed the disabilities act, a civil rights act and Demsrule86 Dec 2018 #13
Agreed. HW Bush also opened the door for millions of John Fante Dec 2018 #33
Junior was a disaster and Trump is a catastrophe. Demsrule86 Dec 2018 #64
Attacking Bush 41 now is bad politically YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #10
Common decency generally asks that we wait till the body is in the ground. Hekate Dec 2018 #11
Thank you EffieBlack Dec 2018 #32
We don't use the devil as an example of how to behave. John Fante Dec 2018 #35
+1. obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2018 #40
Un de plus Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #59
Meh Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2018 #12
This is the very reason why more discussion is needed. BlueWI Dec 2018 #57
Nope, and you can't expect them to. It would serve no purpose at this time still_one Dec 2018 #14
Exactly. nt babylonsister Dec 2018 #20
Sadly, I have to agree. The only effect would be negative backlash. Martin Eden Dec 2018 #24
Absolutely still_one Dec 2018 #25
Fascinating BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #15
They will not. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #16
Careful...he's got a big fan club here. QC Dec 2018 #17
had a back and forth on DU the other day... Javaman Dec 2018 #18
Of the dead, speak nothing but good. The Mouth Dec 2018 #29
Well, he was a one term president Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #19
Hopefully not. H2O Man Dec 2018 #21
Next week FakeNoose Dec 2018 #22
Please explain Sherman A1 Dec 2018 #23
He IS a saint compared to Trump. That is what matters. Doodley Dec 2018 #26
I don't think it would do a single thing to change those who bought... WeekiWater Dec 2018 #27
Why not let the historians take care of that ornotna Dec 2018 #28
Like They Did Reagan? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! PaulX2 Dec 2018 #31
Well okay then ornotna Dec 2018 #36
I Did Not Mean Trash Him Or Trash Him Today - I Mean In A Week Or Two Have An Honest Discussion PaulX2 Dec 2018 #30
The only ones who give a fuck about his.. MicaelS Dec 2018 #52
+1 Beatification of the Devil. lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #34
Short answer: no. Current events are bad enough that we don't have the time to take Hassler Dec 2018 #37
I am SICK of glorifying the War Criminal. joanbarnes Dec 2018 #38
Um, in what way was he a war criminal? brooklynite Dec 2018 #45
The Ivasion of Panama. gilligan Dec 2018 #39
I can only imagine how the media would have treated the death of J. Edgar Hoover if it happened now. BamaRefugee Dec 2018 #41
NO. It would not advance the cost of getting rid of Trump. pnwmom Dec 2018 #42
K&r.. disillusioned73 Dec 2018 #43
Jake Tapper was on Seth Meyers the other night IcyPeas Dec 2018 #44
I couldn't agree more! oldlibdem Dec 2018 #46
They won't because, IMO, a great majority of rank & file Dems don't care about the issue Kaleva Dec 2018 #47
Get over it, GHWB is dead and buried and it's unlikely from this point on elocs Dec 2018 #48
This is a good start Geechie Dec 2018 #49
Now is not the time to do it crazycatlady Dec 2018 #50
Raygun and Poppy were shite in the 80s thegoose Dec 2018 #51
Republicans are using his death to try and rehabilitate their party lanlady Dec 2018 #53
We just have to make it clear in the public consciousness that Republicans... Garrett78 Dec 2018 #54
re: "He wasn't as bad as Bush 41" - you meant 43. (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2018 #55
If only there was one Democrat who had the spine to make the kind of speech MP Glenda Jackson dflprincess Dec 2018 #56
Ecclesiastes 8 9-10: rwsanders Dec 2018 #58
There's an age-old saying which can also be considered a truism: luvtheGWN Dec 2018 #60
K&R!!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2018 #62
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