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Nitram

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71. Don't jump the gun. Let Mueller do his work. If the report is as powerful as we expect it to be,

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Fri Dec 7, 2018, 01:24 PM

Dec 2018

enough Repubs will support impeachment to get the job done. Otherwise, it will die in the /Senate.

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Not impeaching Trump would make a complete mockery of the rule of law and ruin our country. [View all] shockey80 Dec 2018 OP

K&r! Fiendish Thingy Dec 2018 #1

I want to wait and see what Mueller produces. olegramps Dec 2018 #39

Absolutely! Fiendish Thingy Dec 2018 #45

If we don't what's to stop someone in the future WA-03 Democrat Dec 2018 #2

It'd say the president can do anything the president wants to do, the president is above the law. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #3

"If Republicans in the Senate refuse to convict, that's on them." Jake Stern Dec 2018 #8

That may depend on what exactly comes of the Special Counsel investigation. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #12

What does impeachment accomplish without conviction in the Senate? WillowTree Dec 2018 #4

It puts it in the historical record, it's standing up to the law breaker Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #14

Standing up to the lawbreaker? elocs Dec 2018 #18

All of the crimes Trump has committed Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #23

I see no benefit to the historical record showing that he was acquitted. onenote Dec 2018 #21

It's about right and wrong. Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #28

You give "the American people" more credit than they generally show they deserve. onenote Dec 2018 #29

A majority of Americans voted against Trump Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #31

Is there a reliable poll showing a majority of the American people support impeachment at this time? onenote Dec 2018 #33

I don't know Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #37

+1,000,000 This! This is where the media acts as "fourth estate" - if branches of gov't are at a diva77 Dec 2018 #22

Yes, political calculations should not be the main decider Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #32

It accomplishes doing what's right, what is legally called for. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #15

Exactly. A website listing Trump's impeachable offenses is having trouble keeping up. That's diva77 Dec 2018 #25

What it accomplishes is to establish that the law comes first and partisan expediency comes after. paulkienitz Dec 2018 #58

And then he's acquitted in the Senate.......aka declared "Not guilty". Wonderful optics. WillowTree Dec 2018 #61

Letting him be above the law Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #67

He can be convicted after he is out of office dansolo Dec 2018 #68

Not holding Trump accountable Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #72

I lean towards this point of you. Renew Deal Dec 2018 #5

Want trump impeached as much as anyone else Jake Stern Dec 2018 #6

I agree Andy823 Dec 2018 #10

Agreed! Impeachment, without a remote possibility of conviction would only strengthen Trump, and... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #13

Not just Clinton Jake Stern Dec 2018 #43

This isn't a case of someone lying about an affair. This is a case of the most criminal president... Garrett78 Dec 2018 #17

Impeachment would make a martyr out of Trump in the eyes of his base elocs Dec 2018 #20

I'll take that risk gladly. There's also a big odds Duppers Dec 2018 #53

Recommended! H2O Man Dec 2018 #7

Won't be gone though DownriverDem Dec 2018 #9

Agreed. Our timidity about impeachment is going to bite us in the ass. Paladin Dec 2018 #11

+1. "Hey, we know he's guilty, but we don't know if the jury is going to convict or not, dalton99a Dec 2018 #75

That's a beautiful summary of it. Mind if I use it in the future? (nt) Paladin Dec 2018 #81

Please do. dalton99a Dec 2018 #82

This isn't about politics Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #16

My favorite fantasy is.... joc46224 Dec 2018 #19

The argument against impeachment is that we won't get a conviction. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #24

Think it's wacky all you want Jake Stern Dec 2018 #41

I don't agree with the assumption that it's Democrats who would suffer blowback. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #48

It would be admitting this is the kind of leadership we deserve. lpbk2713 Dec 2018 #26

I'm pretty sure congress can impeach, run committees and pass new legislation Equinox Moon Dec 2018 #27

What new laws sarisataka Dec 2018 #30

He should be impeached ASAP but after the investigation is completed elmac Dec 2018 #34

I don't think we want Pence or Ryan to become president Perseus Dec 2018 #35

This about sums things up matt819 Dec 2018 #36

Since we all know the outcome of the Senate trial if the House impeaches DFW Dec 2018 #38

All of this is premature and things can change YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #40

I think we need to be prepared for his resignation prior to impeachment. harumph Dec 2018 #42

I agree; he must be impeached AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #44

He needs to be indicted first. mwooldri Dec 2018 #46

Impeaching Trump only to have the Senate exonerate him is just as much a farce. tandem5 Dec 2018 #47

I don't agree. It pretty much ruins the impeached person forever, and I have no problem doing that BamaRefugee Dec 2018 #50

Impeachment didn't ruin Bill Clinton, it increased his popularity. So your premise is wrong. nt Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #73

Because the case against him was transparently partisan Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #74

So you say. Having witnessed the Clinton impeachment up close & personal, Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #77

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #83

THE FIX IS ALREADY IN. I watched Jerry Nadler, on THE LAST WORD, say that impeachment would... BamaRefugee Dec 2018 #49

You know why they're going to cave? Jake Stern Dec 2018 #59

Agreed!! Fucking lather, rinse, repeat....... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2018 #65

Impeachment will put enormous pressure on the 22 Puke Senators Ponietz Dec 2018 #51

+1,000,000! Duppers Dec 2018 #54

My thoughts exactly Sunsky Dec 2018 #80

Impeaching is not the issue its getting the Senate to convict after that is the issue cstanleytech Dec 2018 #52

K & R sagetea Dec 2018 #55

If HIGH CRIMES deserving of impeachment are exposed, then the House should IMPEACH Martin Eden Dec 2018 #56

Thanks you. Joe941 Dec 2018 #57

You need 2/3 of the Senate and overwhelming evidence of high crimes. It's not simple. LBM20 Dec 2018 #60

Let justice be done, though the heavens fall. meadowlander Dec 2018 #62

Same should have applied to... rwsanders Dec 2018 #63

Honestly I think it's more fun watching him squirm. Initech Dec 2018 #64

It's REPUBLICANS who have made a complete mockery of the rule of law and ruined our country EleanorR Dec 2018 #66

Articles of Impeachment against RMN MichMary Dec 2018 #69

The question will finally be answered. kentuck Dec 2018 #70

Don't jump the gun. Let Mueller do his work. If the report is as powerful as we expect it to be, Nitram Dec 2018 #71

He can be prosecuted after being voted out of office Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #76

True, but we need to strike when the moment is right. Oneironaut Dec 2018 #78

Well said nt Sunsky Dec 2018 #79