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dalton99a

(81,065 posts)
75. +1. "Hey, we know he's guilty, but we don't know if the jury is going to convict or not,
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:03 AM
Dec 2018

so let's not bring any charges"

K&r! Fiendish Thingy Dec 2018 #1
I want to wait and see what Mueller produces. olegramps Dec 2018 #39
Absolutely! Fiendish Thingy Dec 2018 #45
If we don't what's to stop someone in the future WA-03 Democrat Dec 2018 #2
It'd say the president can do anything the president wants to do, the president is above the law. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #3
"If Republicans in the Senate refuse to convict, that's on them." Jake Stern Dec 2018 #8
That may depend on what exactly comes of the Special Counsel investigation. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #12
What does impeachment accomplish without conviction in the Senate? WillowTree Dec 2018 #4
It puts it in the historical record, it's standing up to the law breaker Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #14
Standing up to the lawbreaker? elocs Dec 2018 #18
All of the crimes Trump has committed Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #23
I see no benefit to the historical record showing that he was acquitted. onenote Dec 2018 #21
It's about right and wrong. Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #28
You give "the American people" more credit than they generally show they deserve. onenote Dec 2018 #29
A majority of Americans voted against Trump Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #31
Is there a reliable poll showing a majority of the American people support impeachment at this time? onenote Dec 2018 #33
I don't know Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #37
+1,000,000 This! This is where the media acts as "fourth estate" - if branches of gov't are at a diva77 Dec 2018 #22
Yes, political calculations should not be the main decider Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #32
It accomplishes doing what's right, what is legally called for. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #15
Exactly. A website listing Trump's impeachable offenses is having trouble keeping up. That's diva77 Dec 2018 #25
What it accomplishes is to establish that the law comes first and partisan expediency comes after. paulkienitz Dec 2018 #58
And then he's acquitted in the Senate.......aka declared "Not guilty". Wonderful optics. WillowTree Dec 2018 #61
Letting him be above the law Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #67
He can be convicted after he is out of office dansolo Dec 2018 #68
Not holding Trump accountable Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #72
I lean towards this point of you. Renew Deal Dec 2018 #5
Want trump impeached as much as anyone else Jake Stern Dec 2018 #6
I agree Andy823 Dec 2018 #10
Agreed! Impeachment, without a remote possibility of conviction would only strengthen Trump, and... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #13
Not just Clinton Jake Stern Dec 2018 #43
This isn't a case of someone lying about an affair. This is a case of the most criminal president... Garrett78 Dec 2018 #17
Impeachment would make a martyr out of Trump in the eyes of his base elocs Dec 2018 #20
I'll take that risk gladly. There's also a big odds Duppers Dec 2018 #53
Recommended! H2O Man Dec 2018 #7
Won't be gone though DownriverDem Dec 2018 #9
Agreed. Our timidity about impeachment is going to bite us in the ass. Paladin Dec 2018 #11
+1. "Hey, we know he's guilty, but we don't know if the jury is going to convict or not, dalton99a Dec 2018 #75
That's a beautiful summary of it. Mind if I use it in the future? (nt) Paladin Dec 2018 #81
Please do. dalton99a Dec 2018 #82
This isn't about politics Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #16
My favorite fantasy is.... joc46224 Dec 2018 #19
The argument against impeachment is that we won't get a conviction. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #24
Think it's wacky all you want Jake Stern Dec 2018 #41
I don't agree with the assumption that it's Democrats who would suffer blowback. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #48
It would be admitting this is the kind of leadership we deserve. lpbk2713 Dec 2018 #26
I'm pretty sure congress can impeach, run committees and pass new legislation Equinox Moon Dec 2018 #27
What new laws sarisataka Dec 2018 #30
He should be impeached ASAP but after the investigation is completed elmac Dec 2018 #34
I don't think we want Pence or Ryan to become president Perseus Dec 2018 #35
This about sums things up matt819 Dec 2018 #36
Since we all know the outcome of the Senate trial if the House impeaches DFW Dec 2018 #38
All of this is premature and things can change YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #40
I think we need to be prepared for his resignation prior to impeachment. harumph Dec 2018 #42
I agree; he must be impeached AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #44
He needs to be indicted first. mwooldri Dec 2018 #46
Impeaching Trump only to have the Senate exonerate him is just as much a farce. tandem5 Dec 2018 #47
I don't agree. It pretty much ruins the impeached person forever, and I have no problem doing that BamaRefugee Dec 2018 #50
Impeachment didn't ruin Bill Clinton, it increased his popularity. So your premise is wrong. nt Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #73
Because the case against him was transparently partisan Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #74
So you say. Having witnessed the Clinton impeachment up close & personal, Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #77
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #83
THE FIX IS ALREADY IN. I watched Jerry Nadler, on THE LAST WORD, say that impeachment would... BamaRefugee Dec 2018 #49
You know why they're going to cave? Jake Stern Dec 2018 #59
Agreed!! Fucking lather, rinse, repeat....... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2018 #65
Impeachment will put enormous pressure on the 22 Puke Senators Ponietz Dec 2018 #51
+1,000,000! Duppers Dec 2018 #54
My thoughts exactly Sunsky Dec 2018 #80
Impeaching is not the issue its getting the Senate to convict after that is the issue cstanleytech Dec 2018 #52
K & R sagetea Dec 2018 #55
If HIGH CRIMES deserving of impeachment are exposed, then the House should IMPEACH Martin Eden Dec 2018 #56
Thanks you. Joe941 Dec 2018 #57
You need 2/3 of the Senate and overwhelming evidence of high crimes. It's not simple. LBM20 Dec 2018 #60
Let justice be done, though the heavens fall. meadowlander Dec 2018 #62
Same should have applied to... rwsanders Dec 2018 #63
Honestly I think it's more fun watching him squirm. Initech Dec 2018 #64
It's REPUBLICANS who have made a complete mockery of the rule of law and ruined our country EleanorR Dec 2018 #66
Articles of Impeachment against RMN MichMary Dec 2018 #69
The question will finally be answered. kentuck Dec 2018 #70
Don't jump the gun. Let Mueller do his work. If the report is as powerful as we expect it to be, Nitram Dec 2018 #71
He can be prosecuted after being voted out of office Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #76
True, but we need to strike when the moment is right. Oneironaut Dec 2018 #78
Well said nt Sunsky Dec 2018 #79
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