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lunatica

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15. I also have a suspicion that Putin isn't answering his calls
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:58 PM
Dec 2018

but it’s because at this point he’s gotten what he can out of Trump succeeding. Putin never loses sight of his goals and in this case he’s been busy undermining the Western countries. He has the UK tied up with Brexit, and Macron dealing with France’s version of the violent Alt Right and us busy with the Trump fallout. We can’t help but notice that all three countries are busy with internal Alt Right groups rising up to destroy traditional government and societal institutions. And so far succeeding, at least to the point of starting so many fires that the leadership is kept too busy having to deal with these fires.

Once Putin has succeeded in distracting the leadership and the populace he probably has a next step in his plans, which seems to be to allow the Alt Right groups to eliminate the present leadership. He has no personal loyalty for them. They are just pawns. In our case Trump is left to us to do with whatever we choose to do. I imagine that will be to get rid of him. Putin doesn’t care what we do. He knows first hand what it is to go from one of the two Superpowers to governmental and economic collapse in a very few unstable years. It seems his struggle has been to at least level the playing fields down to his county’s level and then gain the upper hand again, only this time we won’t be equal.

We have been in formerly unimaginable disarray from the moment Trump was sworn it. He has been a blitz of nonstop destruction either by direct action or deliberate inaction. And it has exposed our weaknesses.

This may sound too far fetched unless you have a good grasp of history. It’s not a new story. At this moment, after the blue wave, is the first time I’m sensing a ray of hope for Democracy itself. But the struggle is going to be a hard and very intense one. Our halcyon days, if they ever existed are over.

Geez Waterman! You always seem to plunge me into deeper thought! But I feel OK indulging my thoughts here.

Trump's World [View all] H2O Man Dec 2018 OP
Will there be anyone there to stop him from starting a distracting little war? Hekate Dec 2018 #1
many millions of us desperately want to hear, "Yes" Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #2
Right. H2O Man Dec 2018 #5
I share that concern. H2O Man Dec 2018 #4
As you say, we are in perilous times Hekate Dec 2018 #7
His tweet tonight H2O Man Dec 2018 #9
General Mattis Separation Dec 2018 #11
He is the H2O Man Dec 2018 #12
This petty, vindictive PINO doing an emotional blackmail routine onit2day Dec 2018 #17
K and R. Excellent nt PCIntern Dec 2018 #3
Thank you! H2O Man Dec 2018 #6
Interesting and informative. volstork Dec 2018 #8
Thanks, volstork. H2O Man Dec 2018 #10
A rational person coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #13
Right. H2O Man Dec 2018 #14
I also have a suspicion that Putin isn't answering his calls lunatica Dec 2018 #15
In his book on H2O Man Dec 2018 #16
Abt. those Sanctions and Possibly Starting a Conflict... MartyTheGreek Dec 2018 #19
Interesting. H2O Man Dec 2018 #22
True. I do disagree with one point though coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #18
You are correct H2O Man Dec 2018 #20
Yes exactly coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #23
I think that's what scares half of us to death. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #21
Haggis I think it's okay coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #24
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