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Response to spicysista (Reply #41)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:16 PM

47. I definitely get where you are coming from.

While I have seen quite a lot of coverage and discussion of voter suppression, I do agree that it still doesn't get anywhere near the level of scrutiny that it should. In fairness though, there is the element of passing laws governing elections being within the lawful powers of state legislatures. Obviously, though, I don't mean to imply that the way those lawful powers are being abused is not a huge problem, which of course it is.

I think it's just that on some fundamental level, it's easier to make the case against the Russian meddling, in that covert interference in our elections is clearly an explicitly unlawful activity. At least on paper, there's no ambiguity in "collusion with foreign manipulation of national policy is bad". People can argue that states have the right to govern the election process whether we like the way they do it or not. You can't argue that it's legal to act as an unregistered foreign agent, because it quite simply just is not.

Unfortunately, before we are going to be able to make much headway at getting near-universal condemnation of the voter suppression we have been seeing, I think we are first going to have to overcome the tribalism and intellectual laziness that permit people to buy into the red herrings and other logical fallacies that are so often used to manipulate people.

I really do think that intellectual laziness is at the heart of most of the problems we face, voter suppression included. So many only glance at the surface, without digging deep enough to recognize that the surface is a facade, let alone why that facade was created in the first place. We see the examples all over the place.

Take for example, "whites are more likely to be killed by police than blacks". In that particular case, the statistics cited do in fact show a larger number of whites than blacks killed by police. What that bullshit talking point intentionally omits, and that the intellectually lazy do not even notice, however, is that likelihood is a fraction, and they've omitted the denominator, which is the size of the white/black populations from within which we are evaluating the number of people killed by police.

If one is too intellectually lazy to observe that critical detail, the talking point appears to justifiably diminish the concerns of the BLM movement. But look just a little bit deeper and the whole argument falls apart.

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