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matt819

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15. Does he not realize. . .
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 02:23 PM
Dec 2018

that declaring victory and leaving means that we have lost and are leaving.

A real victory includes things like giving up weapons, surrendering, having a plan for rebuilding, having a something resembling a reasonable government in place. Syria is being run by a dictator, no one is surrendering.

Look, I'm all for bringing troops home from Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan, to say nothing of the 100 or so other countries where we have troops. And I'm fine with "declaring victory." But that works only if you understand that you have in fact lost.

that means there are other, nefarious, reasons Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #1
Yep. dalton99a Dec 2018 #2
I read that as setting up his departure. "Mission accomplished, I'm out of here." Squinch Dec 2018 #3
but there's still money in the treasury! Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #4
True. Squinch Dec 2018 #5
Will he settle for what's at Fort Leavenworth instead? nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #7
somebody whisper to him ... Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #8
Also a deflection from all the bad news of late, for sure! n/m machoneman Dec 2018 #9
Actually Donald, there were three reasons... Blue Owl Dec 2018 #6
and the 4th - Putin. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2018 #10
How many times are we going to screw saljr1 Dec 2018 #11
And this: a day after Russia, Iran and Turkey.... SayItLoud Dec 2018 #12
He's just handing Syria over to Putin relayerbob Dec 2018 #13
Just coincidence Moral Compass Dec 2018 #14
Does he not realize. . . matt819 Dec 2018 #15
+1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2018 #17
ISIS is likely to regain strength quickly: Liberty Belle Dec 2018 #16
Declaring a fake victory .... Shoonra Dec 2018 #18
A fake victory ... and leaving the international effort there karynnj Dec 2018 #21
he wants to acquire the funds used to support the troops in Syria, for his fuckng wall Demonaut Dec 2018 #19
I find it more pathetic than interesting. But that's just me. Nitram Dec 2018 #20
Bibi must have filled his pants when he was told that 0range45 had ceded Syria to NCjack Dec 2018 #22
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