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TheBlackAdder

(28,076 posts)
48. Interesting, I now deploying Russian counter propaganda tools to suppress voting?
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 09:51 PM
Dec 2018

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I'm just stating facts as to who often gets to run for office and how they are selected by voters.

That is perhaps one of the reasons why AOC is pissing off a lot of establishment Dems, to control future selections. If she is not marginalized, it might lead to more non-establishment or non-traditional candidates taking office. There are a lot of OPs here doing just that, trying to redirect, restrain, negate and suppress her opinion. All voices should be legitimate in a true Democratic Party construct. The people in her district chose, so she should have a voice and be heard.

Now, most voters are lazy. Fact lazy, involvement lazy, etc. That's why most don't engage until the closing weeks.


Russian propaganda -

I don't like that implied connotation. This thread has now devolved to the point where I no longer wish to participate.

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Yes. NT mcar Dec 2018 #1
paul ryan was a young speaker . I don't think he brought anything positive JI7 Dec 2018 #2
Paul Ryan is a heartless fraud HopeAgain Dec 2018 #67
It has to do with the claim younger is better treestar Dec 2018 #111
Yes and it also helps Putin achieve his goal of disrupting democracy delisen Dec 2018 #3
So putin is against old ppl. and for young ppl.? juxtaposed Dec 2018 #8
Putin is for turning Americans against each other, creating divisions delisen Dec 2018 #16
One can make divisions on ones own, just a thought. juxtaposed Dec 2018 #20
One can. Igel Dec 2018 #47
So because Putin wants disagreements, we shouldn't disagree? HopeAgain Dec 2018 #68
You said that, I didn't.nt delisen Dec 2018 #74
Best way is to turn every uttered nuance into a major issue guruoo Dec 2018 #73
Depends Snackshack Dec 2018 #4
Or is it just Children of the Corn creepy? Squinch Dec 2018 #5
how about less qualified make way for more qualified, based on actually results? nt msongs Dec 2018 #6
Is someone currently arguing that? Pelosi has said she's done in 4 years. bitterross Dec 2018 #7
We already have term limits. Codeine Dec 2018 #9
Right, that's worked so well. /nt bitterross Dec 2018 #10
It's worked perfectly. Codeine Dec 2018 #12
Yup EffieBlack Dec 2018 #19
I genuinely get a little pissed off Codeine Dec 2018 #23
Agree - it's not only lazy EffieBlack Dec 2018 #26
Codeine's dead on - elections are the best term limits EffieBlack Dec 2018 #14
term limits are a 2 way street we would lose some great representatives. juxtaposed Dec 2018 #15
We tried term-limits. They lasted just long enough to knock out a very good Democrat, pnwmom Dec 2018 #76
IMO term limits are undemocratic drmeow Dec 2018 #100
If that were the case, they could have put in term limits treestar Dec 2018 #112
Thank you! EffieBlack Dec 2018 #113
It's identity politics and naive. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #11
Did someone do that? melman Dec 2018 #13
OP is correct but also a stab at AOC. nt PufPuf23 Dec 2018 #24
'a stab at AOC' melman Dec 2018 #25
I'm starting to think you have a crush on me EffieBlack Dec 2018 #28
Okay melman Dec 2018 #37
It's not aoc Ciaphas Cain Dec 2018 #36
It's not a "stab at AOC" EffieBlack Dec 2018 #27
I connected the OP with a recent post regards a statement attributed to AOC. PufPuf23 Dec 2018 #41
If you think my OP referred to some random post about AOC, you haven't been paying attention to the EffieBlack Dec 2018 #43
My mistake. Sorry. nt PufPuf23 Dec 2018 #56
DUers didn't just fall off the turnip truck. SMC22307 Dec 2018 #42
You may want to work on the AOC obsession of yours EffieBlack Dec 2018 #44
LOL More projection. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2018 #45
LOL! Folks jump in a thread about identity politics that doesn't mention or refer to AOC, EffieBlack Dec 2018 #57
It's a classic spin-off thread. SMC22307 Dec 2018 #84
If by classic spin-off" you mean EffieBlack Dec 2018 #91
Isn't "you-know-who" your ideal candidate? SMC22307 Dec 2018 #92
I think she's great - I like her a lot and thinks she has a huge future EffieBlack Dec 2018 #98
Voting is highly personal so I *try* not to tell others who or what to focus on. SMC22307 Dec 2018 #109
Lands like water off a duck's back guruoo Dec 2018 #72
The sentiment occurs often on DU treestar Dec 2018 #66
Nah, it's not Biden's age. SMC22307 Dec 2018 #82
But many DUers start with his age. treestar Dec 2018 #89
That's why I'm not on board with identity politics. SMC22307 Dec 2018 #90
As my tenured professors would say when asked why they don't retire at retirement age. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #17
I guess younger professors will do same when they age? delisen Dec 2018 #18
Darn, that sounds almost like a lot of politicians. The ones who can't bother to read Autumn Dec 2018 #21
And, therefore, based on this one lackadaisical professor somewhere on Americs EffieBlack Dec 2018 #22
Let's get real, for 80% of the politicans, the party gatekeepers select the candidate. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #29
If you really want to get real, you'd face the fact that the PEOPLE WHO VOT select the candidate EffieBlack Dec 2018 #31
Well, the premise that the Democratic Party is a Ground Up Institution changed over the years. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #33
"If voters don't know the candidate, they will just vote for the existing elected official" EffieBlack Dec 2018 #34
There are several components to winning an election, each is required for success. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #35
You left out the most important component: VOTERS EffieBlack Dec 2018 #40
Interesting, I now deploying Russian counter propaganda tools to suppress voting? TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #48
For a lot of voters, politics is one of the last things on their mind crazycatlady Dec 2018 #50
How is that going to change if WE don't get involved and change it? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #54
I've worked on campaigns for a decade and in 10 states crazycatlady Dec 2018 #58
That's great! EffieBlack Dec 2018 #59
I've staffed candidates at many community events (where people are) crazycatlady Dec 2018 #60
That's awesome EffieBlack Dec 2018 #63
It's mystifying.. JHan Dec 2018 #64
party machinery does exist crazycatlady Dec 2018 #46
South Jerseyan--It's difficult to get on a township Democratic ticket without a Norcross blessing. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #52
I Wonder If It's More He Lost Me. Dec 2018 #62
REading her Wiki now crazycatlady Dec 2018 #65
That's Pretty Much My Point Me. Dec 2018 #69
that turnout is actually typical crazycatlady Dec 2018 #80
Actually, As A Nyer I Am Quite Familiar With How Things Work Me. Dec 2018 #96
That's a very valid opinion Autumn Dec 2018 #32
i believe so..... samnsara Dec 2018 #30
Who is arguing that? SMC22307 Dec 2018 #38
it is DonCoquixote Dec 2018 #39
It's just the age old debate over fresh talent vs experience nt guruoo Dec 2018 #49
Can an older, newly-elected Member be considered "fresh talent" or is age alone the issue? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #51
I sense that it's not just age, or age in and of itself. guruoo Dec 2018 #71
I wish people would stop saying "new blood" and "fresh faces." betsuni Dec 2018 #53
Anytime customerserviceguy Dec 2018 #55
I've Sometimes Thought Of It As Profiling Me. Dec 2018 #61
I don't want to go on the cart. betsuni Dec 2018 #70
Perfect question. Thank you, EffieBlack. pnwmom Dec 2018 #75
No. And I am 64. dawg day Dec 2018 #77
But isn't that still identity politics! EffieBlack Dec 2018 #81
It's up to the voters tirebiter Dec 2018 #78
Ageism seems to be the hip discrimination these days oberliner Dec 2018 #79
Sounds like Ageism to me. ananda Dec 2018 #83
more like common sense! whistler162 Dec 2018 #95
Diversity includes a full range of applicable ages Tom Rinaldo Dec 2018 #85
Great post. Thanks EffieBlack Dec 2018 #87
We are in full agreement. Thanks for starting a good discussion n/t Tom Rinaldo Dec 2018 #97
Identity Politics...ugh. Stupid term. Identity politics is just an insult the right uses against... TCJ70 Dec 2018 #86
Whatever happened to nuance? Maeve Dec 2018 #88
Yes. nt GoCubsGo Dec 2018 #93
If it is SO BE IT!!!! whistler162 Dec 2018 #94
Perfect answer. Thank you. Autumn Dec 2018 #99
Thanks EffieBlack Dec 2018 #104
It is a way of attacking effective leadership by appealing to idealism. Much like Bernie does. PubliusEnigma Dec 2018 #101
I have 30 years + on AOC matt819 Dec 2018 #102
Are younger people making efforts drmeow Dec 2018 #103
We also need to differentiate between "age" and "longevity" EffieBlack Dec 2018 #108
check out the group Run for Something crazycatlady Dec 2018 #114
[post removed] johnp3907 Dec 2018 #105
Well then melman Dec 2018 #107
Is insisting that we should only be looking at PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #106
It's pretty difficult to argue that looking at a candidate's experience is "identity politics" EffieBlack Dec 2018 #110
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