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16. "Her popular vote margin over Trump all came from California"
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 09:30 PM
Dec 2018

This is a favorite chestnut over at Fox, Breitbart, etc.; Trump himself has used it, and it’s terribly dismissive of the State of California, as if it were a mere snap-on piece of the map, an accessory that can just be removed and thus some kind of “real picture” of America emerges with liberal California subtracted and out of the way.

While it’s technically mathematically correct in numbers only, when it’s used to prove some point, it’s grossly inconsiderate of the nearly 40 million Americans who live, work, pay (heavy) taxes and vote here.

One could just as easily pick any state or region, and add or subtract its votes to make some case for this-or-that trend, but somehow, it seems that California gets picked on first, primarily because it’s a powerhouse liberal state, and knocking it is a right-wing staple.

In case you haven’t guessed, I’m a native Californian, and my beef is the lack of representation for this state.

Take the six predominantly Republican States of Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, North Dakota and South Dakota. Six states, population about 4 million, 12 senators.
And California? Population 40 million, just two senators. 36 million more people, but no additional representation.

K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #1
He didn't win the 2016 popular vote. akraven Dec 2018 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Dec 2018 #3
I agree 1000%... ADX Dec 2018 #6
"you would hear crickets here about abolishing the Electoral College. " No!! You wouldn't retread Dec 2018 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Dec 2018 #13
"Her popular vote margin over Trump all came from California" VOX Dec 2018 #16
Hear! Hear! CA is one of the most important dynamic, states in the entire union. Yavin4 Dec 2018 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Dec 2018 #21
The slavery-era, Electoral College should be done away with Yavin4 Dec 2018 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #27
IMHO, it's arbitrary to claim that the 2.8M 'all came from California' ... mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #28
Yeah, actually, the fact that 'it's arbitrary' ... does mean ... 'it's wrong'. mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #34
anti-trump libertarians & democrats got 51.5% of popular vote jimmy the one Jan 2019 #24
I have a comeback for the California excuse Jspur Jan 2019 #39
They paid off the Electoral College sarisataka Dec 2018 #4
Electoral college is what matters..nt helpisontheway Dec 2018 #5
He won't be on the GOP ticket in 2020 katmondoo Dec 2018 #7
Ditto malaise Dec 2018 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Dec 2018 #14
Because he will not be running after having been removed from office in 2019 Cousin Dupree Dec 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Dec 2018 #15
Call it what you want. This is my opinion and I'm stickin to it Cousin Dupree Dec 2018 #17
Electoral College math is all that matters and, sadly, Trump is still in an okay place... Drunken Irishman Dec 2018 #10
Very well said Polybius Dec 2018 #23
could sherrod brown swing ohio jimmy the one Jan 2019 #25
See Post 29 DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #32
Based on the midterm results jcgoldie Jan 2019 #30
Agreed. It's an uphill battle for sure... Drunken Irishman Jan 2019 #38
Trump will not be on the 2020 GOP ticket. sarcasmo Dec 2018 #12
None of these polls matter because we don't know who Trump's opponent will be. n/t Yavin4 Dec 2018 #19
66% of WY approves of Trump? Polybius Dec 2018 #20
Due to subtle population shifts DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #29
What about Electoral? oberliner Jan 2019 #31
If you took every state where Trump is upside down he would lose the Electoral College. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #33
We need to be strong in a few key states oberliner Jan 2019 #35
States we have a real shot of flipping -in order DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #36
All we need really is those first three and we win oberliner Jan 2019 #37
electoral college can lead to unwarranted super power jimmy the one Jan 2019 #40
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