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In reply to the discussion: Bernie alumni seek meeting to address 'sexual violence' on '16 campaign [View all]MineralMan
(146,262 posts)I don't actually oppose Bernie Sanders. I just think he's not the best choice as the Democratic nominee in 2020. I didn't think he was the best choice in 2016, either. In fact, he did not become the nominee, so it wasn't really an issue in the General Election.
However, there were people on DU who self-styled as Sanders supporters, but who were actually not that at all. Most of them are gone from DU now. But, they were real people who did real things. Some were Jill Stein supporters, too. There was much that was not as it appeared to be going on here.
That's all over with now. The election came and went, and we lost in a very narrow electoral college race. Three states made the difference, and Jill Stein voters were enough to have made it go the other way. To say I regret that happened would be the understatement of the year.
There are many factions on the far left of politics in the United States. Not all of those factions have the general good of our nation in mind. Not by a long shot. Some of those factions also supported Bernie Sanders, to his detriment, actually. Some of those factions were represented here on DU. And, as I also said, most of those people are gone now.
I am about just one thing: Helping Democrats win elected offices. Democrats. We have clearly seen what can happen when that is not the case. So, you'll find me in strong opposition of those who don't have that as their goal, too. Always. There are many who wrongly believe that the nation must be torn down before it can be rebuilt. They are wrong. The nation can easily be destroyed if the right wing holds control of all three branches of government. We are seeing that at work right now.
So, I like Bernie Sanders. I like him as the Senator from Vermont. I don't like him as a candidate for President, though, and I don't like some of those who follow him and who pretend to want the best for this country, while really trying to destroy it so it can "be rebuilt." Such people are fools and contribute to the problem.
You may feel reassured in some way, but always remember that I will fight for Democrats who run for office. I will fight against anyone who lessens their chances of election, regardless of what they call themselves. One cannot necessarily believe what people say they represent. People lie all the time. If I don't know someone, or if their message seems to oppose rational methods of achieving goals, you'll see me pointing that out here.
What I said in the post you replied to was that I did not have enough information yet. when I do, I will form an opinion about those who were mentioned in the OP of this thread. I have no opinion about that at the moment.