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263. Another sister and I were at the NYC Protests
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 02:10 AM
Jan 2019

against the War on Iraq, Feb 15, 2003.. and we were there for at least 7 hours and no toilets.

Ah, but we were all younger then.

13 hours, eh? to get a place to stand no doubt. Come to think of it the weather was about 20 degrees when we were there in Feb. We danced at the end to get warm and were very grateful for body warmth from so many people. I counted about 1 Million then. I don't care what the NYT said.

What's all this, then? MineralMan Dec 2018 #1
I do not know anything but what was in the article. boston bean Dec 2018 #4
I was thinking the same thing... R B Garr Dec 2018 #8
Can you elaborate on that? What about tjose KPN Dec 2018 #20
The Bros' public behavior on Twitter, for one thing. Even Bernie acknowledged it. pnwmom Dec 2018 #36
Deplorables said that? ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #67
Jaysus! Cha Dec 2018 #71
"But Bernie supporters held the 'Hillary 2016 for Prison' signs up at their rallies, too .. betsuni Dec 2018 #74
Remember when romana Dec 2018 #215
Yup, and it's still there for everyone to see. betsuni Dec 2018 #216
Yes. Cha Dec 2018 #234
I'll never forget mcar Dec 2018 #242
I remember even worse. TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #258
Never before had I seen such elaborately hateful venom directed at supporters of Democrats. betsuni Jan 2019 #262
I was clearing old files off a couple of backup drives revmclaren Jan 2019 #264
Still active, yes. No regrets, apparently. betsuni Jan 2019 #265
Short of hunting and putting Bernie Bros down for a dirt nap, what exactly could be done to stop it? DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #124
According to the letter, there were assholes working inside the campaign, pnwmom Dec 2018 #126
According to the response, actions were taken. Up to and including immediate firing. DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #128
Clearly the actions taken were grossly insufficient, given the things said in the letter, pnwmom Dec 2018 #130
Downthread, another poster links to Alex Thompson's posting the letter and the response. DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #135
The letter implies it started at the top, with the likes R B Garr Dec 2018 #142
+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #186
BS on Al Franken.. Cha Dec 2018 #231
Not odd at all, given the history of death threats. /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #236
Why is it odd that the signatories are cut off? lapucelle Jan 2019 #257
Thank You for that, RB. Cha Jan 2019 #281
Actions, smactions... for some, better to leave that part out. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #189
Begin by addressing the allegation of sexual violence and a predatory culture WITHIN the campaign. lapucelle Dec 2018 #168
At one tme one wouldn't have had to move far from this forum to get an inkling of that. fleabiscuit Dec 2018 #127
I know. And the article was pretty stingy with facts. MineralMan Dec 2018 #141
I appreciate your not going along with the groupthink of the Bernie-bashers. Jim Lane Dec 2018 #153
I think for myself. I make decisions for myself. MineralMan Dec 2018 #169
True, but, as supporters of Sanders, these are people who would want to put the best possible spin LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #165
See my post #169 for my commentary on MineralMan Dec 2018 #171
Fair enough; done. It wasn't there when i replied. /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #176
I know it wasn't. That happens all the time around here. MineralMan Dec 2018 #190
There were sporadic stories in 2016 RandySF Dec 2018 #47
All conveniently kept quiet so the Hillary and Dem party bashing could continue... brush Dec 2018 #75
What "swarm"? whathehell Dec 2018 #125
The one that flew away. Good riddance I say. fleabiscuit Dec 2018 #129
Uh huh whathehell Dec 2018 #143
Yes, Good Riddance.. Also the one Cha Dec 2018 #232
The one that hates Democrats because they fell for fake news and conspiracy theories. betsuni Dec 2018 #137
WTF? dhol82 Dec 2018 #2
Oh dear... R B Garr Dec 2018 #3
This is my shocked face. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #5
The "sexual violence" is a Cha Dec 2018 #10
I Don't Expect To See That Finger Pointing At Others In The Future Me. Dec 2018 #52
We shall see.. Cha Dec 2018 #233
hauʻoli makahiki hou Cha Me. Dec 2018 #254
Hauʻoli makahiki hou, Me! Cha Dec 2018 #256
... Me. Jan 2019 #259
Yeah, you can say Cha Jan 2019 #260
I Commend Those People Me. Jan 2019 #261
Another sister and I were at the NYC Protests Cha Jan 2019 #263
You & Your Sister Are Something Else! Me. Jan 2019 #269
.. Cha Jan 2019 #278
Now, if we can only get out in open the the action that was taken... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #241
Yes there were rumors over a period of time, for many it was "unmentionable". George II Dec 2018 #33
"Organizers of the effort said they did not intend for the letter to become public, but they Cha Dec 2018 #6
I have a feeling this isn't going to end well ... EffieBlack Dec 2018 #7
On the contrary, lol, . . . grantcart Dec 2018 #50
+1 fleabiscuit Dec 2018 #132
This needs to be investigated mcar Dec 2018 #9
They could just dissolve. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2018 #133
There is a small segment of his base who are horrific... WeekiWater Dec 2018 #11
Dolores Huerta Hekate Dec 2018 #13
And SS getting all outraged because Huerta spoke in both English and Spanish. Such a doosh. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2018 #134
Sarandon's Despicable. Cha Dec 2018 #226
Well, BS will have his chance now to address Cha Dec 2018 #15
The campaign did, during the 2016 campaign. And during the 2018 reelection campaign. DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #22
Then why did the "Alumini" send Cha Dec 2018 #26
You'll have to ask them. Maybe they feel efforts didn't go far enough. Maybe they could be improved. DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #30
I feel the same. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #23
If we looked at all the incidents we'd know that there was virtually no control over workers.... George II Dec 2018 #24
Las Vegas. Cha Dec 2018 #29
Yes, that was hard to watch. So many reports of intimidation R B Garr Dec 2018 #61
Aloha, RB! Cha Dec 2018 #69
Yes! And the intimidation at caucuses. nt R B Garr Dec 2018 #60
I was a delegate to the national convention and saw some horrible behavior Gothmog Dec 2018 #100
+1 n/t Henhouse Dec 2018 #238
Now, maybe True Blue American Dec 2018 #118
Hmmm... how could one miss it, though? calimary Dec 2018 #62
By charging ahead full steam with no concern. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #86
Okay. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #95
Wasn't the Cummings incident at the very end of the primary. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Dec 2018 #114
Now I'm not sure what you are talking about. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #140
That Cummings video was outside the Convention Hall several hours before the... George II Dec 2018 #200
Marissa Johnson was very early in the process. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #218
Elijah Cummings and John Lewis are two different people Gothmog Dec 2018 #208
I believe there is a cashing out aspect to what we are seeing. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #217
There is a pattern of sanders either condoning or actively ignoring the actions of his supporters Gothmog Dec 2018 #207
I look forward to the transparency, honesty, and soul searching that surely will ensue.... Hekate Dec 2018 #12
*cough* They did. DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author WeekiWater Dec 2018 #27
The current letter is the issue, not Politico reporting. R B Garr Dec 2018 #145
Will that come before tax returns are released? Blue_true Dec 2018 #31
I'm glad they came forward and that good things happen. aikoaiko Dec 2018 #14
Yeah, it seems to be a problem with campaigns in general. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #19
Sexual violence is pretty serious HBS. Getting to the bottom of it is not shit stirring. Blue_true Dec 2018 #32
+1 sheshe2 Dec 2018 #82
They want to say it's campaigns in general, but HRC would not have put up with this shit. n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #38
. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #41
That guy was fired after several months, after having his pay docked pnwmom Dec 2018 #45
The letter references "sexual violence" lapucelle Dec 2018 #49
And whoever leaked the letter thought it was necessary, pnwmom Dec 2018 #53
I'm Shocked I tell you Shocked bahrbearian Dec 2018 #55
,,, lapucelle Dec 2018 #42
What evidence do you have of that, aside from Bernie staffers' assurance pnwmom Dec 2018 #59
Did you even read the article? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #66
So you go off topic and talk about Harris. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #76
I was just going to say the usual suspects are already R B Garr Dec 2018 #81
Jaysus! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #83
Every day is a Festival of Logical Fallacies! betsuni Dec 2018 #87
Whataboutism mcar Dec 2018 #243
ummmhmmm. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #248
The other poster asked me about other campaigns. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #91
That is an individual. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #96
Not what she asked. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #97
Details, details!! You should know better than to question double standards when applied to Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #115
No. The double standards are that Hillary and now Kamala R B Garr Dec 2018 #146
Huh? Sorry, I don't get your point... who's saying what about Hillary and Kamala? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #147
lol, your post #115 about Bernie and double standards is still there. R B Garr Dec 2018 #148
We're obviously not talking about the same thing. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #149
Your post #115 about double standards and Bernie R B Garr Dec 2018 #150
Yes, that's my point. What's yours... that by holding Bernie to the same standards InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #152
LOL, your post 115 is still there R B Garr Dec 2018 #156
Okay, well I tried to engage you in a meaningful way... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #158
No need to blame me for this very unnecessary R B Garr Dec 2018 #160
Asking BS to address sexual violence and a pervasive predatory culture lapucelle Dec 2018 #159
That is a single individual. As I said, bad apples exist in every barrel. Who did Bernie fire? pnwmom Dec 2018 #79
Yes, I read the article Gothmog Dec 2018 #163
"the usual suspects" sheshe2 Dec 2018 #73
Not in the dozens of campaigns in which I worked - local, District, and State-wide. George II Dec 2018 #202
So you think his formers staffers are "shit stirrers?" ehrnst Jan 2019 #297
Anytime people come forward asserting claims of sexual harassment or abuse InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #154
An even better thing would be for there to be no reason to come forward. George II Dec 2018 #203
Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #16
Bernie Bros were made up Catch2.2 Dec 2018 #35
Some of them were INSIDE Bernie's campaign, which is what this letter was all about. pnwmom Dec 2018 #39
Were you on a decade-long hiatus from DU during the 2016 election cycle? Hekate Dec 2018 #43
Oh Snap! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #84
I see Catch2.2 Jan 2019 #271
The Bros are on film at the Convention, Catch2.2. Are those Russian disruptors? Hekate Jan 2019 #275
I will say this Catch2.2 Jan 2019 #299
Snopes rated this false guruoo Jan 2019 #279
I would like to see the video Catch2.2 Jan 2019 #300
Google "John Lewis booed", "Dorlores Huerta Heckled", etc. George II Jan 2019 #301
I did google it.... Catch2.2 Jan 2019 #304
Did you watch the coverage of the convention? Try again. It's the first google hit. George II Jan 2019 #305
I did Catch2.2 Jan 2019 #308
Here's my search: George II Jan 2019 #309
Your link Catch2.2 Jan 2019 #310
Except for the ones many of us knew IRL, but whatever. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #46
Oh FFS... SidDithers Dec 2018 #51
Glenn Greenwald assures me that they don't exist... comradebillyboy Dec 2018 #70
Ha! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #99
No, they were the target audience of Russian propaganda. betsuni Dec 2018 #85
Yup, Russian bots are still at it... was hopin' maybe we'd get beyond that nonsense by now. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #107
lol fail ! stonecutter357 Dec 2018 #136
Check out Twitter sometime mcar Dec 2018 #244
Here's the letter: George II Dec 2018 #17
They want BS to be Cha Dec 2018 #21
Unrecorded, you say? nolabear Dec 2018 #28
Oh, what a surprise (not really). Blue_true Dec 2018 #25
Oh, yeah, right, ALL the campaigns were just as bad. pnwmom Dec 2018 #34
Hillary Clinton Chose to Shield a Top Adviser Accused of Harassment in 2008 Catch2.2 Dec 2018 #37
He was docked several weeks pay, forced to undergo training, and then fired after several months. pnwmom Dec 2018 #40
Why do you leave this post unedited now that you know it to be factually incorrect? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #164
Why do you leave your posts comparing the disciplining of one person connected to Hillary pnwmom Dec 2018 #166
Because you brought up the other campaign and said that would never ever be tolerated. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #170
Hillary docked his pay and put him through retraining. After that, he didn't reoffend pnwmom Dec 2018 #175
I guess we will have to see if Bernie only docs pay and remains close friends with the perpetrators. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #193
Your false analogies are very obvious. We all saw what was R B Garr Dec 2018 #199
You're missing the point Catch2.2 Jan 2019 #272
And I believe that you're just obfuscating LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #277
great example of whataboutism! delisen Dec 2018 #44
You should probably review the thread to see who brought the other campaign in to the discussion Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #54
The article in the OP quoted someone saying that what happened in Bernie's campaign pnwmom Dec 2018 #57
Thanks for pointing that out H. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #108
But you see HRC would never do this, if she did it was a "mistake". MarcA Dec 2018 #48
Hillary first docked the pay of a staffer accused of harassment, pnwmom Dec 2018 #56
Even If You Repeat That Info For A 3rd Time Me. Dec 2018 #58
She didnt fire him. You need to refresh your memory on that fiasco. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #65
You need to improve your reading comprehension. She fired him after several months. pnwmom Dec 2018 #80
The original incidents took place in 2008. He wasn't fired then. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #89
The letter about Bernie's campaign is about pervasive R B Garr Dec 2018 #94
+1, the Chuck Todd level of false equivalency is gob smacking on this thread. uponit7771 Dec 2018 #104
Yep. emulatorloo Dec 2018 #116
I mean it's right there in the quote you posted. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #92
You are right about that. But how is ONE man in Hillary's campaign, pnwmom Dec 2018 #98
+1, its not ... they know this uponit7771 Dec 2018 #105
Well stated, pnwmom! Of course, Cha Dec 2018 #205
That Makes 3 Me. Dec 2018 #157
You're right, he wasn't fired... Hillary did what she thought was best. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #219
His own supporters are alleging "sexual violence and harassment" within a "predatory culture" LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #64
BS "bashes" himself when he Cha Dec 2018 #68
Talk like that serves NO good purpose. It's divisive and it weakens our party. NurseJackie Dec 2018 #138
Exactly, Jackie! BS Attacked our Democratic Party Cha Dec 2018 #196
You summed it up perfectly!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #110
Shhhh... you're not sposed to point out the obvious double standards!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #112
Overt false equivalency noted uponit7771 Dec 2018 #103
#WhataboutHillary betsuni Dec 2018 #113
DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2018 #63
K & R. revmclaren Dec 2018 #72
K&R betsuni Dec 2018 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Dec 2018 #78
Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #90
Yep. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #106
happy new year sheshe! ucrdem Dec 2018 #210
K&R Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #88
Don't forget that a reporter's life was threatened after she wrote an article critical of Sanders RandySF Dec 2018 #93
From my twitter feed Gothmog Dec 2018 #102
Thank You, Goth! Cha Dec 2018 #109
Ignoring the morons replying to those 2 tweets, interesting to see the letter and response in-full. DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #111
I was a Clinton delegate to the national convention Gothmog Dec 2018 #119
+1 ucrdem Dec 2018 #120
Who, exactly, was that meant for? DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #121
Politico includes the full text of both letters. In fact the NYDN article links to it. ucrdem Dec 2018 #122
Something changed from earlier and it's disconcerting. DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #123
I remember a TV interview where a reporter asked Sanders about the Las Vegas convention. ucrdem Dec 2018 #131
It sure as hell did/does. Cha Dec 2018 #206
Mahalo, Cha! ucrdem Dec 2018 #209
A Very Healthy Happy, Blue-Wave New Year Cha Dec 2018 #211
... ucrdem Dec 2018 #212
The conduct described in the letter fits in a pattern Gothmog Dec 2018 #144
Thank you for background information on vetting of delegates MaryMagdaline Dec 2018 #139
Real campaigns vet their delegates for two reasons Gothmog Jan 2019 #285
Good lord. This is the reason we need to abolish caucuses in the primary MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #286
Prior to 2016, Texas had a process called the Texas Two Step Gothmog Jan 2019 #291
There will be fewer caucuses in 2020 Gothmog Jan 2019 #292
good news MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #293
Thanks for the first hand eyewitness account, Gothmog... Hekate Jan 2019 #276
You are welcome Gothmog Jan 2019 #282
Hmmm... Ciaphas Cain Dec 2018 #117
Shouldn't we wait for the facts to be presented first... ProgLibDem Dec 2018 #151
Wait?! What??... and miss a golden opportunity to take a swipe at Bernie?! Heaven forbid?! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #155
Has sanders met with the signers of the letter yet? Gothmog Dec 2018 #161
IDK... what's your deadline on that? And when Bernie does, will you commend him? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #162
If sanders actually addresses this issue, it would be a good step Gothmog Dec 2018 #167
Well obviously Bernie will have to comply with all DNC rules... why wouldn't he?? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #174
This conduct would be contrary to sanders' past conduct in Vermont Gothmog Dec 2018 #179
The rules are the rules and must be complied with... your preaching to the choir. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #184
Seriously? "Commend him"??? NurseJackie Dec 2018 #173
Yes, riiiight, cause I said we should throw Bernie a parade.. good one!!. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #178
Hmmm... quite the over-reaction. I must have struck a nerve. Sorry. NurseJackie Dec 2018 #182
Yes, I thought you did overreact by characterizing a simple acknowledgment with "throwing a parade" InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #185
No...your argument was that he would deserve to be "commended" for doing what's normal and expected. NurseJackie Dec 2018 #191
Means the same to me... no need to overreact on your part and lecture InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #237
Oh good grief! I'm smarter than you think... NurseJackie Dec 2018 #250
Accusing someone else of "Overreacting" or "Lecturing." ehrnst Jan 2019 #306
I always taught my children that doing the right thing was its own reward. lapucelle Dec 2018 #222
So true... but when someone like Bernie can do nothing right in some people's eyes... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #239
I'm not a fan of entitled victimhood. lapucelle Dec 2018 #245
Well, you have a point there... which is what I think Bernie tries to do. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #247
... NurseJackie Dec 2018 #251
The irony is too much for me. betsuni Dec 2018 #252
I know! I know! NurseJackie Dec 2018 #253
For simply responding to a request to discuss it? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #296
Seems like some people here have already tried and convicted the Sanders campaign... ProgLibDem Dec 2018 #181
Yeah, that would be the FAIR thing to do... which is why some would never extend that same courtesy InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #188
... NurseJackie Dec 2018 #192
Yeah, that's it. Us liberals are undemocratic. uh huh Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #289
Here you go again. Lamenting that Bernie is being picked R B Garr Dec 2018 #194
Indeed! You and I both have high expectations and high standards ... NurseJackie Dec 2018 #195
Amen! The standards should especially apply when one R B Garr Dec 2018 #198
His campaign ended two years ago. Isn't two years long enough to wait for the facts to be presented? George II Dec 2018 #197
I think you misunderstood my post... ProgLibDem Dec 2018 #201
Has BS made a statement yet? lapucelle Dec 2018 #220
I don't know if Senator Sanders made a statement. Do you? ProgLibDem Dec 2018 #221
The only fact we know is that two dozen people are alleging instances of sexual violence, lapucelle Dec 2018 #224
Exactly. Yet people here have already tried and convicted the Sanders' campaign... ProgLibDem Dec 2018 #225
That is your allegation. lapucelle Dec 2018 #229
In a generally anonymous forum, how exactly can anybody know that someone is telling the truth? ProgLibDem Dec 2018 #235
It is heartening to know that you believe that 24 people have put BS on notice lapucelle Dec 2018 #240
I hadn't noticed that you are a new voice her on DU. lapucelle Dec 2018 #249
It's great that people here can form bonds based on posts - nothing wrong with that. ProgLibDem Jan 2019 #273
If I apply your standard to the statement you just made... lapucelle Jan 2019 #274
When you have been Cha Dec 2018 #255
I was not the only delegate to the national convention who was upset Gothmog Jan 2019 #284
I'm just grateful we have first hand Cha Jan 2019 #287
Amazing to see Sanders supporters dismiss this as "just another swipe at Bernie" BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #172
Many among us aren't amazed or surprised at all... NurseJackie Dec 2018 #180
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Dec 2018 #187
No one who lived through the 2016 campaign is surprised NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 #204
Not surprising mcar Dec 2018 #246
INEXCUSABLE! oasis Dec 2018 #177
But, But . . . peggysue2 Dec 2018 #183
I wonder if this came up because Arturo Carmona was at the recent Sanders Institute shindig. seaglass Dec 2018 #213
Thank you for posting that. betsuni Dec 2018 #214
Thank You, seaglass! Cha Dec 2018 #223
Here is the working link... revmclaren Dec 2018 #228
Thanks, rev! Your post calls out for this.. Cha Dec 2018 #230
+++ sheshe2 Dec 2018 #227
I wonder why this essay wasn't widely covered in the press. lapucelle Jan 2019 #266
The essay mentions that a letter to BS would be forthcoming. lapucelle Jan 2019 #267
There is absolutely no room for this type of aberrant behavior in my party. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #268
This shows Bernie is taking this type of thing seriously. Joe941 Jan 2019 #270
BS hasn't met with them yet. The Cha Jan 2019 #280
NBC is covering this story Gothmog Jan 2019 #283
Politico @ it again... disillusioned73 Jan 2019 #288
Politico ran a story about a manufactured #MeTo attack Go Vols Jan 2019 #294
LOL betsuni Jan 2019 #298
From the NYT Gothmog Jan 2019 #290
Sexism Claims From Bernie Sanders's 2016 Run: Paid Less, Treated Worse Gothmog Jan 2019 #295
I just wish Sanders would go away. He's useless. n/t NNadir Jan 2019 #302
Has that meeting happened yet? Cha Jan 2019 #303
Bernie Sanders has a problem Gothmog Jan 2019 #307
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