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YvonneCa

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55. Your words...

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:27 PM

Aug 2012

..."What I want to get to is responsibility. the reason I say this is I know people who don't do a damn thing all day long, so why should i or you pay for someone that does not want to do anything. we complain about the rich not doing their fair share, shouldn't we complain about people on the other side doing the same thing."

Why? Because the 6 children did not make the choice to be in the situation they are in. Responsible adults in a society should NEVER stand by and allow children to go hungry. Just because the parents may have made poor choices that created a bad situation is no excuse for not caring for children. Period.

Add to that, in many of those situations, the one responsible adult is the parent...and caring for six children is HARD WORK in my book. Anyone who has children knows that.

BTW, complaining gets all of us nowhere. We need to all be less selfish and find solutions.

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I took my car in for service yesterday. Had an interesting (brief) conversation... [View all] truth2power Aug 2012 OP

I'd bet a sizeable sum reflection Aug 2012 #1

Bingo Berlum Aug 2012 #9

Yep, he's a liar. He knows no such person. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #12

Good one. I think I'll start asking for names also. n/t reflection Aug 2012 #13

man you're quick on your feet barbtries Aug 2012 #68

yup, adopting that tactic here, too! brilliant! pnwest Aug 2012 #79

There's a regular poster on the Minneapolis Star-Tribune website who claims to be the manager Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #38

There is a group of hateful jerks on my local paper site who complain about food stamps proud2BlibKansan Aug 2012 #40

It's not that hard... jmowreader Aug 2012 #60

I don't look at ANYONE'S card. I don't believe that's any of my business. proud2BlibKansan Aug 2012 #61

great observation backwoodsbob Aug 2012 #2

The Mythical Welfare Queen Invented By The GOP Back In The Reagan Days, the more things change..... OverBurn Aug 2012 #3

Invented long before that - 1930's unc70 Aug 2012 #30

Thank you for that additional context JHB Aug 2012 #34

Yes, god forbid his tax dollars feed American children instead of blowing up Afghan children. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #4

Or pumping up Oil company profits n/t n2doc Aug 2012 #45

^^^^^^ kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #56

I've heard multiple times that every illegal alien got a car, a free apartment, jsr Aug 2012 #5

Your words wouldn't have gotten through Courtesy Flush Aug 2012 #6

I challenged a couple Facebook friends to give me one example of a conservative that brewens Aug 2012 #78

The real 'Welfare Queens' are the Banks, Corporations and Special Interests. formercia Aug 2012 #7

I try to frame it differently. Blanks Aug 2012 #8

Good one nt Courtesy Flush Aug 2012 #14

Childless people might gripe when it's true that flamingdem Aug 2012 #10

"unless you have a child - at least for Medicaid in many states. " dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #16

single adult males with permanent disabilities yes 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #17

Max food stamps for family of 7 is $816, not $1,000 Hamlette Aug 2012 #11

depends on state my brother married, 5 kids ,and gets $1200/mo JesterCS Aug 2012 #21

true Hamlette Aug 2012 #43

That's a great story and meshes with my multiple experiences. Along those lines, coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #22

"There are none so blind . . ." CrispyQ Aug 2012 #46

my dad was just the opposite, he got more liberal Hamlette Aug 2012 #57

People like this woman you are referring to meanit Aug 2012 #54

she knows you're lying barbtries Aug 2012 #70

People like that suck the energy right out of me lunatica Aug 2012 #15

It also makes me crazy that people like that SheilaT Aug 2012 #18

Geez, now you're sounding like his greedy lazy welfare queen ex-wives... hunter Aug 2012 #31

Bravo! CrispyQ Aug 2012 #47

A suggestion: sometimes a picture will get through even when people otherwise ignore words. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #19

Should've called him a stupid repig who doesn't belong in a democratic society just1voice Aug 2012 #20

i have a question. why is it okay to have okieinpain Aug 2012 #23

excuse me? FirstLight Aug 2012 #24

so people can just do whatever the hell they want okieinpain Aug 2012 #50

When your husband dies prematurely. IggleDoer Aug 2012 #25

Welfare queen on the GOP ticket smaug Aug 2012 #28

it's nice that everyone is down with taking care of people okieinpain Aug 2012 #52

Your words... YvonneCa Aug 2012 #55

you're right about finding solutions and throwing okieinpain Aug 2012 #59

It is OK because we live in a cicilized society. Webster Green Aug 2012 #29

so everyone can just forget about being responsible okieinpain Aug 2012 #51

Easy - one happy family, one bad situation, and a single parent is left. haele Aug 2012 #73

mom and food stamps.. billky Aug 2012 #26

I always try to talk about different kinds of "welfare" --an elderly woman LuckyLib Aug 2012 #27

Yes, it seems like there's never a good enough reason to be on public assistance truth2power Aug 2012 #36

i think you are missing the point... Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #32

And yet those who most strongly state that policy are the most adamant against abortion and b/c.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #33

you're just assuming that... Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #62

Paul Ryan has sponsored a bill to make abortion illegal even in cases of rape or incest.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #64

what are you talking about? Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #69

Let's just say that this mother is on welfare, which we have no way of knowing, truth2power Aug 2012 #35

well I'm an advocate of judging it case by case basis... Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #63

Given how our social safety net has been rendered nearly ineffective truth2power Aug 2012 #71

why can't we talk about both? Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #72

Each child is a tragedy and a hope... druidity33 Aug 2012 #37

I didn't say any of that...I take a case by case approach.. Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #65

yes, but druidity33 Aug 2012 #75

yes I know people on welfare and yeah i realize people can fall on hard times... Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #80

So what do you recommend Green_Lantern? NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #48

nice hyperbole that ignores the problem.. Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #66

Right wing talking point treestar Aug 2012 #58

it is a right wing thing? Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #67

No that people can be certain of their finances for the next 18 years treestar Aug 2012 #74

The fascinating thing is Republicans want it both ways. Amak8 Aug 2012 #39

RW assholes have called me a "welfare queen" because I get an SSI check... Odin2005 Aug 2012 #41

We own a small retail shop in our local community. Doremus Aug 2012 #42

It wouldn't matter ... GeorgeGist Aug 2012 #44

So many levels of hypocrisy BarackTheVote Aug 2012 #49

As long as the woman is white and middle class, they're all for her staying home Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #53

If you could just stuff them all back in the womb he might be willing to double it to 2on2u Aug 2012 #76

I agree with your calculations, but we should not deny there is a real problem here BlueStreak Aug 2012 #77