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In reply to the discussion: NY Times: For Bernie Sanders, Claims of Sexism in 2016 Campaign Hang Over 2020 Bid [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)60. Oh right - I remember her staffers from 2008 asking for a meeting with her before her 2016 campaign
because they were worried that the untenable and dangerous dynamic that developed during the 2008 campaign hadn't been dealt with...
More than two dozen women and men who worked on Bernie Sanders 2016 presidential campaign are seeking a meeting with the senator and his top political advisers to discuss the issue of sexual violence and harassment on the 2016 campaign, for the purpose of planning to mitigate the issue in the upcoming presidential cycle, according to a copy of letter obtained by POLITICO.
In recent weeks there has been an ongoing conversation on social media, in texts, and in person, about the untenable and dangerous dynamic that developed during our campaign, they wrote.
In recent weeks there has been an ongoing conversation on social media, in texts, and in person, about the untenable and dangerous dynamic that developed during our campaign, they wrote.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/30/bernie-sanders-campaign-harassment-1077014
Whataboutism usually involves that you find an equally bad situation elsewher to make the situation you are defending look less compromising.
But you did create hippocrisy to accuse someone of, so you checked off all the boxes.
Whataboutism (also known as Whataboutery) is a red herring version of the classic tu quoque logical fallacy - sometimes implementing the balance fallacy as well - which is employed as a propaganda technique. It is used as a diversionary tactic to shift the focus off of an issue and avoid having to directly address it. This technique works by twisting criticism back onto the critic and in doing so revealing the original critic's hypocrisy. The usual syntax is "What about...?"
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whataboutism
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NY Times: For Bernie Sanders, Claims of Sexism in 2016 Campaign Hang Over 2020 Bid [View all]
EffieBlack
Jan 2019
OP
The guy who never released his tax returns will never have a thorough & open investigation. n/t
FSogol
Jan 2019
#4
Sanders claims to have been unaware of this during the campaign. Here is another incident from
CentralMass
Jan 2019
#7
The hypocrisy is thrrough the roof. Sanders is getting constantly slimed here and he has not even
CentralMass
Jan 2019
#12
My point here is that there is always one faction that goes negative with a sense of superiority
CentralMass
Jan 2019
#17
That has nothing to do with it other then I belive you and otherswho regulary post negative posts
CentralMass
Jan 2019
#30
Posting a NY Times story is a negative post attempting to provoke a "turf war"
EffieBlack
Jan 2019
#44
Oh right - I remember her staffers from 2008 asking for a meeting with her before her 2016 campaign
ehrnst
Jan 2019
#60
I voted for and supported Hillary in 2008. Investrd a lot of time countering attacks on her on
CentralMass
Jan 2019
#24
You can keep posting it as many times as you like, but it's still very different, and still
ehrnst
Jan 2019
#62
I posted a bit in another reply. I think this situation should be scrutinized.
CentralMass
Jan 2019
#29
Good point on that other New York Times article... yet, a new standard applies to Bernie?!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#27
Oh please....deflecting wont work. The fact is Sen. Sanders should have known.
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#46
Right, her 2008 staffers asked for a meeting to address the pervasive culture of harassment
ehrnst
Jan 2019
#58
shouldn't most Sanders supporters get Behind Elizabeth Warren who HAS taken steps to run ?
JI7
Jan 2019
#18
If Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders voted 93% the same when they were both in the Senate,
betsuni
Jan 2019
#28
Now THAT'S the way to do it. Republicans wreck America, Democrats try to fix it.
betsuni
Jan 2019
#34
That is not really true. The concern among various voters is can she carry purple and red states...
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#47
I post this as an example of how going negative on any candidate in this race is possible
CentralMass
Jan 2019
#31
Yes, what about them. Would 4 or 5 different posts about these very similar issues be tolerated
CentralMass
Jan 2019
#50
What happened in this ONE incident in Harris' office was handled and he was dismissed....
George II
Jan 2019
#54
We can do better. There is no room for this aberrant behavior in our party.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2019
#45
And it's not only 2016 - BS had no problems with a known sexual harasser at his Gathering
KitSileya
Jan 2019
#51