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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:02 PM Aug 2012

Hunting, just a bad idea to go after this as if it were evil. [View all]



Look folks, I understand, many of our URBAN residents do not get it... I understand. But claiming that hunting is somehow a defect of Republicans is a sure way to lose you an election in rural areas where people HUNT AND FISH, period.

Here you go, two well known "Republicans," Senators Shumer and Nelson



Here is another well known "Republican," one Senator Kerry



There are other well known "Republicans," such as Bob Kerry who hunts as well.

Now here is another well known "Republican" fishing. You might even recognize him and his wife.



Oh my bad. All these people are (or were) well known DEMOCRATS. This is why this is stupid. Neither party owns hunting or fishing... if you do not get it why people do either, sure I understand. But ascribing evil to this is just plain out asking to continue to lose votes in rural America where both hunting and fishing are part of the culture. Oh and unless you are a vegan, sorry folks, but somebody else killed your steak. And you surely do not want to look into how your chicken, eggs and milk are produced either.

Yes, Paul Ryan hunts... so? He lives in an area of the country where hunting is a popular activity and part of the wild white tail population management. And your point? I got a problem with how Chenney did it, his is not hunting... but that is another ball of wax. But seeing that either of these two is evil because they hunt is silly. There are more than enough reasons to call them ON POLICY, without going after them for practicing something humans have done since oh since Homo Sapiens walked the planet. That is just plain stupid.

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Gotta agree. Half of the hunters and fishermen are Democrats. FSogol Aug 2012 #1
I am not sure of the percentages nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #2
Seriously? Are you on the NRA payroll now? MotherPetrie Aug 2012 #8
Seriously? Are you an idiot? n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #35
No, but you are telling me only republicans hunt? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #54
I can't stand the OP, but that is a completely idiotic comment. Codeine Aug 2012 #107
dumdumdumb emilyg Aug 2012 #116
Do you honestly think Aerows Aug 2012 #163
Are you joking? zappaman Aug 2012 #255
Oh, that was wholly uncalled for Yo_Mama Aug 2012 #270
Stay away from gun control former-republican Aug 2012 #10
That is one we will have to agree to disagree nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #55
I'm sorry but I disagree former-republican Aug 2012 #61
And it can be possession, with intent to sell, of cocaine or crack, or blue ice nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #63
I see we will not reach an agreement on this issue former-republican Aug 2012 #82
But we can disagree nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #98
yes we can former-republican Aug 2012 #103
I agree with you. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #117
A little surprised why more members don't former-republican Aug 2012 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Aug 2012 #130
in rural areas politics does NOT factor into folks getting to eat. piratefish08 Aug 2012 #211
The locals who hunt (if they can get licenses away from trophy hunters Warpy Aug 2012 #59
Yes, in our area there are high poverty rates in the rural areas. Liberty Belle Aug 2012 #111
No one hunts with an automatic weapon. Why would you think that someone would hunt with a AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #174
It makes a huge difference in that my 870 never jams like an autoloader.... Scuba Aug 2012 #215
If you have a semi-auto that jams with any regularity... PavePusher Aug 2012 #237
Not a problem for me. I'm told 1100's jam often... Scuba Aug 2012 #253
I have a couple of 1100's belcffub Aug 2012 #254
If you have had the experience of doing so once, why would you want to "short-arm" it again? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #263
Among my circle of shooting friends, "short-arming it" refers to... Scuba Aug 2012 #271
I've known people Aerows Aug 2012 #156
I agree that I don't think it's "evil". But we aren't everyone. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #3
THey are entitled to have it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #12
That last photo is interesting... GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #20
No, it is not an artifact nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #28
You are VERY right. GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #49
Then what? That seems REALLY sanctimonious here. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #24
What I am telling you is that we get food from ANIMAL sources nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #32
those are photos of the real evil. zeemike Aug 2012 #122
We no longer do prayers to thank the animal spirit for giving up it's life nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #138
Yes it is a whole different matter. zeemike Aug 2012 #144
I know, and here is a fun fact nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #145
I am mostly familiar with the native American traditions. zeemike Aug 2012 #160
Many ancient traditions have that aspect of connection to life nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #164
Interesting story...and it does seem like magic. zeemike Aug 2012 #179
The magic in that program is that regardless of the interpretation nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #184
The Inuit hunt whales jarred222 Aug 2012 #191
And men hunt men and have for centuries. zeemike Aug 2012 #222
So gross Marrah_G Aug 2012 #246
We try to do the same for health reasons nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #252
I notice another characteristic all those people share.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #4
You are noticing something that is relevant nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #9
Minorities running around in the woods with guns? Fumesucker Aug 2012 #15
No, not really nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #25
"But I am sure you did not know this." zappaman Aug 2012 #29
You can turn down the condescension a notch or two Nadine, I actually do know that.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #31
Don't hold your breath. zappaman Aug 2012 #33
Well, what can I say? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #34
I included this sentence in the post you were replying to.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #37
Whatever, I am not looking for a fight nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #42
that bottom picture was not from a reservation !!!!! belcffub Aug 2012 #219
OK... so I figured out that the image was from the preview of my video belcffub Aug 2012 #221
Do a google search for IMAGES nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #240
what are the odds... belcffub Aug 2012 #244
Sta Ysabel and hunting and deer, I think that was the boolean search. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #245
thanks... looking now belcffub Aug 2012 #247
I was specifically looking for images nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #248
"White thing"? Not here in Texas. eallen Aug 2012 #89
It's A "White Thing" In Texas. Trust Me. Paladin Aug 2012 #220
Strange, then, how many Hispanic hunter I know. eallen Aug 2012 #277
We are Native American and it is part of a long standing culture for us. This is not a whites only jwirr Aug 2012 #16
I know that.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #26
Thank you. Sorry I seemed to have jumped all over you. jwirr Aug 2012 #50
I didn't take it that way.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #56
where i live we have over a thousand acres of parkland madrchsod Aug 2012 #67
Many of the Native People in Alaska MicaelS Aug 2012 #81
Look at them gloating over the lives they took - FUCKERS! I don't care what party they are. MotherPetrie Aug 2012 #5
Did you eat a steak recently? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #14
You killed all those poor plants! MURDERER! Archae Aug 2012 #27
I killed that apple I know, nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #41
Eat veggies? part man all 86 Aug 2012 #53
Yeah and... I am aware of the problems nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #69
Actually, vegan doesn't cut it either. jeff47 Aug 2012 #230
You're adorable. Brickbat Aug 2012 #48
One hopes you are a vegan, Codeine Aug 2012 #108
I agree. I've a few rules when it comes to hunting. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #6
In Minnesota, the money that buys hunting and fishing licenses goes to to Game and Fish Fund, Brickbat Aug 2012 #7
I agree. My family hunt and fish to supplement our food sources. One of the things that we often jwirr Aug 2012 #11
I agree treestar Aug 2012 #13
What it separates is urban dwellers from rural dwellers nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #18
They require someone else to do the killing for them. RegieRocker Aug 2012 #57
Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #65
Exactly this. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #87
Hunters have spent more money former-republican Aug 2012 #17
Hunting deer is an absolute necessity GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #19
Apparently some would rather the animals die of starvation and disease Major Nikon Aug 2012 #167
In my opinion, hunting is evil. RebelOne Aug 2012 #21
Most hunters hunt to put food on the table nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #38
Many people hunt for food. Being skilled and succesful in the endevour.... PavePusher Aug 2012 #43
A lot of people hunt to supplement their diets. GoneOffShore Aug 2012 #45
I'm sure the cows and chickens that are crammed into factory torture farms for your dinner Codeine Aug 2012 #109
I'm a vegetarian... a la izquierda Aug 2012 #210
for food? are you vegan? piratefish08 Aug 2012 #212
This is just DU and we are a herd of cats. KurtNYC Aug 2012 #22
Assailant NoHeart Cheney was on another orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #23
What chenney did is not hunting and most hunters would laugh nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #39
I do not get hunting as a "sport", but I wholeheartedly agree with you Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #30
The problem is that most hunters are NOT doing it for sport either nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #40
I am aware of that. That would be like thinking slaughterhouse workers are doing their job... Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #52
Most city slickers' ideas about Nature are based off "Bambi". Odin2005 Aug 2012 #36
Eh, I saw two deer crossing the driveway less than a week ago while I was sitting at my computer. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #46
We have them regularly in our back yard but not because they have been crowded out by development progressoid Aug 2012 #95
Careful there, some of us ARE city slickers nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #47
Where's the "wildlife management" for predators? Sick of the GOP Aug 2012 #44
That last photo is not posing? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #51
Interesting point sibelian Aug 2012 #196
I'm an urban liberal. I don't hunt, but I respect the workmanship & design of guns. philly_bob Aug 2012 #58
Does anyone know the stats on how many actually hunt for food? DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #60
That is an interesting question nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #104
Deer hunting is not just a fall thing in my neck of the woods. longship Aug 2012 #125
I know, and I might be an urbanite snob (ha, ha) nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #132
I am a lifelong urbanite and have no problems hifiguy Aug 2012 #62
I know tons of Democrats who hunt and fish. And Republicans as well. gollygee Aug 2012 #64
Sorry, don't like hunters. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #66
I feel the same zoe darkangel218 Aug 2012 #71
Yup, the posing is as old as the species nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Aug 2012 #80
We do what you want, I hope you do not mind nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #84
I would not call tama Aug 2012 #120
oh I have seen many family pictures of food... yawnmaster Aug 2012 #190
As ignorant as saying, "I don't like volleyball players. Never have, never will".. pipoman Aug 2012 #86
Why kill more animals darkangel218 Aug 2012 #68
What happens when you take the apex species from any system? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #83
No, thats just an excuse, so you can sleep better at night. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #88
Since I do not hunt, think whatever nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #91
Try hitting one of those deer at 60 MPH. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #92
No i wouldnt. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #96
Well if you hit it at 60 you might die in the process, no I am not kidding nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #100
How about stop destroying their habitat?? darkangel218 Aug 2012 #102
I noticed you avoided the question nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #105
Agenda 21 lover RegieRocker Aug 2012 #209
you'd rather see people and deer killed on the highway... Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #266
Where I'm at, deer are an invasive species. Brickbat Aug 2012 #101
You're a nice person. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #124
We also built your house in what once was their forest. quaker bill Aug 2012 #213
"We built roads in THEIR forest, not the other way around. " NCTraveler Aug 2012 #224
That's not an excuse, you're just wrong. We've killed off way too many predators and the populations Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #183
Never heard of cronic wasting pipoman Aug 2012 #90
On what basis do you assume i dont contribute ?? darkangel218 Aug 2012 #99
The vast, vast majority of people who can't understand pipoman Aug 2012 #110
The only reason you " contribute " to wildlife refuges darkangel218 Aug 2012 #197
you do realise that bow hunting is huge, i let four guys bow hunt on my property every year loli phabay Aug 2012 #198
If its food, why do they pose with it?? darkangel218 Aug 2012 #200
you do realise that people have posed with their food whether its a deer or loaf of bread loli phabay Aug 2012 #201
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Aug 2012 #202
who said that, i kill deer, rabbits, groundhogs, squirrels, fish to supply food for my family and fr loli phabay Aug 2012 #203
Yah. lol. Because is so hard to buy meat from supermarkets. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #206
okay so its okay for you to buy meat from the supermarket cause someone else killed for you loli phabay Aug 2012 #207
This message was self-deleted by its author pipoman Aug 2012 #218
OK, my first response to this post probably wasn't pipoman Aug 2012 #227
Again would you kill the cockroaches or just live with them loli phabay Aug 2012 #204
the horror belcffub Aug 2012 #232
So you're not a vegan, eh? pipoman Aug 2012 #217
Tell me, where do you think the human race should be on this issue? freshwest Aug 2012 #186
Hello. Never heard of mad cow azul Aug 2012 #171
LOL pipoman Aug 2012 #228
I have no problem with people that hunt. Jennicut Aug 2012 #70
i must confess my wife and i killed to deer out of season... madrchsod Aug 2012 #72
In some places they are picked and processed nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #73
could`t find the deer... madrchsod Aug 2012 #75
Thanks, I think I will put a small gallery of the Ranchita fire on the posterous. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #77
In these parts tama Aug 2012 #129
I'm a vegan, dammit. flvegan Aug 2012 #74
As a vegan tama Aug 2012 #136
As a vegan, it doesn't matter what I think. flvegan Aug 2012 #150
Hunting for food is only evil if the hunter is a poor marksman and causes unnecessary pain or.... Walk away Aug 2012 #78
Especially if the food is wasted nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #79
Hunters are environmentalists. I'll bet Republicans have all the fake hunters. gulliver Aug 2012 #85
Chenney is a special case and they exist regardless of party affiliation nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #93
+1 Beearewhyain Aug 2012 #97
lol i love the visualisation there. loli phabay Aug 2012 #123
With you 100% on this Mopar151 Aug 2012 #127
You got it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #180
Emphasize the difference between hunters and irresponsible gun owners Mopar151 Aug 2012 #194
Especially the last one, would be an excellent idea nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #234
K&R pintobean Aug 2012 #94
My dad leaned left, my mom leaned right. Kalidurga Aug 2012 #106
Yup, why I pointed to the stupidity of it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #112
I have a friend in Ky. - he hunts with emilyg Aug 2012 #113
I suspect that area of the country nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #114
Oh yeah? I live in kentucky too. iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #126
And we also treat our domestic animals like shit nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #140
i live in the mountains of virginia and i hunt, so do my neighbours loli phabay Aug 2012 #192
Some people like to promote dependancy. PavePusher Aug 2012 #249
I agree 100% limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #115
Agreed, I even posted some pictures of battery cages on this thread nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #118
Killing for amusement is fucked up. I don't give a good god damn that JFK did it. LeftyMom Aug 2012 #119
What I am telling you is that if you want to win nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #128
Are you trying to explain industrial agriculture to me? LeftyMom Aug 2012 #131
Ah I see, you have a problem nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #135
I am sorry to report that you fail. yewberry Aug 2012 #178
Whatever, good bye nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #185
Responding to actual facts too much for you? yewberry Aug 2012 #189
+1000 nt abelenkpe Aug 2012 #133
youre being a troll. iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #121
Really, so I imagined the OPs pointing out how ONLY republicans hunt nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #137
Wasn't there like one, hotly-contested OP that linked hunting with republicans? yewberry Aug 2012 #159
Yes there was, but that is ok nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #161
Okay, so there was one post, and many people shot it down (rightly) as a bad association to make. yewberry Aug 2012 #170
What divisiveness, and this is NOT one OP nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #173
Divisiveness: yewberry Aug 2012 #187
Big Tent, First World Problems Loudestlib Aug 2012 #134
And industrial agriculture is far more cruel nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #141
I think it's better to unite us with things we agree on. Loudestlib Aug 2012 #149
But first we need to stop this nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #152
Was there someone suggesting we SHOULD "go after" hunting? tkmorris Aug 2012 #139
I understand hunting/fishing. I don't understand arming up to hunt/shoot people Hoyt Aug 2012 #142
THey are not the same thing, really nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #143
I agree. But "hunting" is used as an excuse to refrain from passing sane gun laws. Hoyt Aug 2012 #147
I think that is where an alliance with hunters has to occur nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #151
I agree with "alliance" with hunters idea. I don't support NRA and its attempt to defeat Obama and Hoyt Aug 2012 #157
That is where the NRA will have to have an internal revolt nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #158
Then, they need to vote them out -- but, it's not going to happen. Hoyt Aug 2012 #162
No disagreement there nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #172
The Split You're Talking About Has Already Happened. Paladin Aug 2012 #225
Thanks, suspected as much nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #229
The Fudd in action: Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #241
That's odd, we have nothing against your sniper rifles and combat shotguns: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #269
I Don't Need A Rem. 700 Tarted Up As A "Sniper Rifle." Paladin Aug 2012 #272
Point is, your "traditional" guns function EXACTLY the same way as the ones I posted. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #273
What parts, exactly, mean it is "Tarted Up As A "Sniper Rifle""... PavePusher Aug 2012 #275
Your window of opportunity to use this distinction as a wedge is closing. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #274
That is the generation I remember. Serious, respectful, prudent. The neo-con NRA sucks. freshwest Aug 2012 #175
THere has been a lot of capture, not just the NRA, nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #177
Well, I guess we just have to get some of our Gungeoneers on it. I'm sure none of the NRA... freshwest Aug 2012 #188
Trophy hunting sucks. Trophy fishing sucks. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #146
Well humans have been hunting for the last 100,000 years nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #148
Sorry. your comments don't change the fact that ENJOYING it sucks. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #154
Sorry to bust the bubble nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #155
Amish Farmer HERVEPA Aug 2012 #165
Look, you think that hunting is eeevviillll that is obvious nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #166
Read critically. ENJOYING hunting is evil. Hunting for sport is evil. That is what I said. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #168
Ergo it is evil, good bye nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #169
ENJOYING it is evil! (I thought you said good-bye before). HERVEPA Aug 2012 #182
i dont follow the concepts of good and evil so enjoying being out and about loli phabay Aug 2012 #193
The term free roaming only applies to poultry raised for meat per the USDA Major Nikon Aug 2012 #181
Yep, lay off the hunting and fishing Aerows Aug 2012 #153
I will say this. I love venison, and there are too many deer in many parts of the JDPriestly Aug 2012 #195
It would be far more effective sibelian Aug 2012 #199
I think we should strive to minimize the harm we do to sentient creatures. Vattel Aug 2012 #205
If one were to find hunting evil Capt. Obvious Aug 2012 #208
As a far-left progressive who hunts, fishes and.... Scuba Aug 2012 #214
Hunting is really mainstream, even in cities. This is a losing smear. eom TransitJohn Aug 2012 #216
Sen. Nelson is kind of a douche... just saying. Erose999 Aug 2012 #223
Not the point of the OP nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #233
I'm an atheist, but agree with humans having domain over the animals. Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #226
as long as you eat it barbtries Aug 2012 #231
With some animals, see deer, you can do both actually nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #236
Trophy hunters ARE evil. There's no two ways about it. redqueen Aug 2012 #235
So you think all hunters just kill for the fun of it? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #243
I thought I was pretty clear. redqueen Aug 2012 #250
The problem is that the MAJORITY of hunters are not ones nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #256
Gonna have to agree with you there. zappaman Aug 2012 #257
There's nothing wrong with fishing at all in my opinion. Proles Aug 2012 #238
Sure do agree. Jack Sprat Aug 2012 #239
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Aug 2012 #242
I hope to god you do not eat steak, or chicken nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #251
Agree! patrice Aug 2012 #258
well spoken, Nadin TheMightyFavog Aug 2012 #259
For food, I can see it. Otherwise, there is nothing 'sporting' about hunting. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #260
Deer hunting season, as much as you personally might not agree with it. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #262
I don't make any claim that I'm right; it's really a visceral reaction. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #264
Well one of my local tribes is teaching the young nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #265
By theater, I mean 'the hunt' by candidates with press coverage. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #267
I beat you on the latte drinking :-) nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #268
Most people where I live hunt and/or fish gollygee Aug 2012 #261
Thanks, great post customerserviceguy Aug 2012 #276
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