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freshwest

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186. Tell me, where do you think the human race should be on this issue?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:44 AM
Aug 2012

Are you of the opinion that Jainism is the route that is correct for the people on this thead?

Most people I know could not live up to that.

I don't judge others on this, as I feel a person's actions are their responsibility, and not mine.

How do you incorporate your beliefs into your daily life?

We have a Vegan, Vegetarian and Animal Rights group where people who want to not eat meat, from any source, talk about alternatives.

These are earnest questions and I hope you will take the time to answer them.

Gotta agree. Half of the hunters and fishermen are Democrats. FSogol Aug 2012 #1
I am not sure of the percentages nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #2
Seriously? Are you on the NRA payroll now? MotherPetrie Aug 2012 #8
Seriously? Are you an idiot? n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #35
No, but you are telling me only republicans hunt? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #54
I can't stand the OP, but that is a completely idiotic comment. Codeine Aug 2012 #107
dumdumdumb emilyg Aug 2012 #116
Do you honestly think Aerows Aug 2012 #163
Are you joking? zappaman Aug 2012 #255
Oh, that was wholly uncalled for Yo_Mama Aug 2012 #270
Stay away from gun control former-republican Aug 2012 #10
That is one we will have to agree to disagree nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #55
I'm sorry but I disagree former-republican Aug 2012 #61
And it can be possession, with intent to sell, of cocaine or crack, or blue ice nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #63
I see we will not reach an agreement on this issue former-republican Aug 2012 #82
But we can disagree nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #98
yes we can former-republican Aug 2012 #103
I agree with you. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #117
A little surprised why more members don't former-republican Aug 2012 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Aug 2012 #130
in rural areas politics does NOT factor into folks getting to eat. piratefish08 Aug 2012 #211
The locals who hunt (if they can get licenses away from trophy hunters Warpy Aug 2012 #59
Yes, in our area there are high poverty rates in the rural areas. Liberty Belle Aug 2012 #111
No one hunts with an automatic weapon. Why would you think that someone would hunt with a AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #174
It makes a huge difference in that my 870 never jams like an autoloader.... Scuba Aug 2012 #215
If you have a semi-auto that jams with any regularity... PavePusher Aug 2012 #237
Not a problem for me. I'm told 1100's jam often... Scuba Aug 2012 #253
I have a couple of 1100's belcffub Aug 2012 #254
If you have had the experience of doing so once, why would you want to "short-arm" it again? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #263
Among my circle of shooting friends, "short-arming it" refers to... Scuba Aug 2012 #271
I've known people Aerows Aug 2012 #156
I agree that I don't think it's "evil". But we aren't everyone. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #3
THey are entitled to have it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #12
That last photo is interesting... GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #20
No, it is not an artifact nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #28
You are VERY right. GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #49
Then what? That seems REALLY sanctimonious here. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #24
What I am telling you is that we get food from ANIMAL sources nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #32
those are photos of the real evil. zeemike Aug 2012 #122
We no longer do prayers to thank the animal spirit for giving up it's life nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #138
Yes it is a whole different matter. zeemike Aug 2012 #144
I know, and here is a fun fact nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #145
I am mostly familiar with the native American traditions. zeemike Aug 2012 #160
Many ancient traditions have that aspect of connection to life nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #164
Interesting story...and it does seem like magic. zeemike Aug 2012 #179
The magic in that program is that regardless of the interpretation nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #184
The Inuit hunt whales jarred222 Aug 2012 #191
And men hunt men and have for centuries. zeemike Aug 2012 #222
So gross Marrah_G Aug 2012 #246
We try to do the same for health reasons nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #252
I notice another characteristic all those people share.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #4
You are noticing something that is relevant nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #9
Minorities running around in the woods with guns? Fumesucker Aug 2012 #15
No, not really nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #25
"But I am sure you did not know this." zappaman Aug 2012 #29
You can turn down the condescension a notch or two Nadine, I actually do know that.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #31
Don't hold your breath. zappaman Aug 2012 #33
Well, what can I say? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #34
I included this sentence in the post you were replying to.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #37
Whatever, I am not looking for a fight nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #42
that bottom picture was not from a reservation !!!!! belcffub Aug 2012 #219
OK... so I figured out that the image was from the preview of my video belcffub Aug 2012 #221
Do a google search for IMAGES nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #240
what are the odds... belcffub Aug 2012 #244
Sta Ysabel and hunting and deer, I think that was the boolean search. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #245
thanks... looking now belcffub Aug 2012 #247
I was specifically looking for images nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #248
"White thing"? Not here in Texas. eallen Aug 2012 #89
It's A "White Thing" In Texas. Trust Me. Paladin Aug 2012 #220
Strange, then, how many Hispanic hunter I know. eallen Aug 2012 #277
We are Native American and it is part of a long standing culture for us. This is not a whites only jwirr Aug 2012 #16
I know that.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #26
Thank you. Sorry I seemed to have jumped all over you. jwirr Aug 2012 #50
I didn't take it that way.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #56
where i live we have over a thousand acres of parkland madrchsod Aug 2012 #67
Many of the Native People in Alaska MicaelS Aug 2012 #81
Look at them gloating over the lives they took - FUCKERS! I don't care what party they are. MotherPetrie Aug 2012 #5
Did you eat a steak recently? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #14
You killed all those poor plants! MURDERER! Archae Aug 2012 #27
I killed that apple I know, nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #41
Eat veggies? part man all 86 Aug 2012 #53
Yeah and... I am aware of the problems nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #69
Actually, vegan doesn't cut it either. jeff47 Aug 2012 #230
You're adorable. Brickbat Aug 2012 #48
One hopes you are a vegan, Codeine Aug 2012 #108
I agree. I've a few rules when it comes to hunting. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #6
In Minnesota, the money that buys hunting and fishing licenses goes to to Game and Fish Fund, Brickbat Aug 2012 #7
I agree. My family hunt and fish to supplement our food sources. One of the things that we often jwirr Aug 2012 #11
I agree treestar Aug 2012 #13
What it separates is urban dwellers from rural dwellers nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #18
They require someone else to do the killing for them. RegieRocker Aug 2012 #57
Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #65
Exactly this. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #87
Hunters have spent more money former-republican Aug 2012 #17
Hunting deer is an absolute necessity GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #19
Apparently some would rather the animals die of starvation and disease Major Nikon Aug 2012 #167
In my opinion, hunting is evil. RebelOne Aug 2012 #21
Most hunters hunt to put food on the table nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #38
Many people hunt for food. Being skilled and succesful in the endevour.... PavePusher Aug 2012 #43
A lot of people hunt to supplement their diets. GoneOffShore Aug 2012 #45
I'm sure the cows and chickens that are crammed into factory torture farms for your dinner Codeine Aug 2012 #109
I'm a vegetarian... a la izquierda Aug 2012 #210
for food? are you vegan? piratefish08 Aug 2012 #212
This is just DU and we are a herd of cats. KurtNYC Aug 2012 #22
Assailant NoHeart Cheney was on another orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #23
What chenney did is not hunting and most hunters would laugh nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #39
I do not get hunting as a "sport", but I wholeheartedly agree with you Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #30
The problem is that most hunters are NOT doing it for sport either nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #40
I am aware of that. That would be like thinking slaughterhouse workers are doing their job... Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #52
Most city slickers' ideas about Nature are based off "Bambi". Odin2005 Aug 2012 #36
Eh, I saw two deer crossing the driveway less than a week ago while I was sitting at my computer. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #46
We have them regularly in our back yard but not because they have been crowded out by development progressoid Aug 2012 #95
Careful there, some of us ARE city slickers nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #47
Where's the "wildlife management" for predators? Sick of the GOP Aug 2012 #44
That last photo is not posing? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #51
Interesting point sibelian Aug 2012 #196
I'm an urban liberal. I don't hunt, but I respect the workmanship & design of guns. philly_bob Aug 2012 #58
Does anyone know the stats on how many actually hunt for food? DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #60
That is an interesting question nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #104
Deer hunting is not just a fall thing in my neck of the woods. longship Aug 2012 #125
I know, and I might be an urbanite snob (ha, ha) nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #132
I am a lifelong urbanite and have no problems hifiguy Aug 2012 #62
I know tons of Democrats who hunt and fish. And Republicans as well. gollygee Aug 2012 #64
Sorry, don't like hunters. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #66
I feel the same zoe darkangel218 Aug 2012 #71
Yup, the posing is as old as the species nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Aug 2012 #80
We do what you want, I hope you do not mind nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #84
I would not call tama Aug 2012 #120
oh I have seen many family pictures of food... yawnmaster Aug 2012 #190
As ignorant as saying, "I don't like volleyball players. Never have, never will".. pipoman Aug 2012 #86
Why kill more animals darkangel218 Aug 2012 #68
What happens when you take the apex species from any system? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #83
No, thats just an excuse, so you can sleep better at night. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #88
Since I do not hunt, think whatever nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #91
Try hitting one of those deer at 60 MPH. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #92
No i wouldnt. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #96
Well if you hit it at 60 you might die in the process, no I am not kidding nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #100
How about stop destroying their habitat?? darkangel218 Aug 2012 #102
I noticed you avoided the question nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #105
Agenda 21 lover RegieRocker Aug 2012 #209
you'd rather see people and deer killed on the highway... Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #266
Where I'm at, deer are an invasive species. Brickbat Aug 2012 #101
You're a nice person. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #124
We also built your house in what once was their forest. quaker bill Aug 2012 #213
"We built roads in THEIR forest, not the other way around. " NCTraveler Aug 2012 #224
That's not an excuse, you're just wrong. We've killed off way too many predators and the populations Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #183
Never heard of cronic wasting pipoman Aug 2012 #90
On what basis do you assume i dont contribute ?? darkangel218 Aug 2012 #99
The vast, vast majority of people who can't understand pipoman Aug 2012 #110
The only reason you " contribute " to wildlife refuges darkangel218 Aug 2012 #197
you do realise that bow hunting is huge, i let four guys bow hunt on my property every year loli phabay Aug 2012 #198
If its food, why do they pose with it?? darkangel218 Aug 2012 #200
you do realise that people have posed with their food whether its a deer or loaf of bread loli phabay Aug 2012 #201
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Aug 2012 #202
who said that, i kill deer, rabbits, groundhogs, squirrels, fish to supply food for my family and fr loli phabay Aug 2012 #203
Yah. lol. Because is so hard to buy meat from supermarkets. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #206
okay so its okay for you to buy meat from the supermarket cause someone else killed for you loli phabay Aug 2012 #207
This message was self-deleted by its author pipoman Aug 2012 #218
OK, my first response to this post probably wasn't pipoman Aug 2012 #227
Again would you kill the cockroaches or just live with them loli phabay Aug 2012 #204
the horror belcffub Aug 2012 #232
So you're not a vegan, eh? pipoman Aug 2012 #217
Tell me, where do you think the human race should be on this issue? freshwest Aug 2012 #186
Hello. Never heard of mad cow azul Aug 2012 #171
LOL pipoman Aug 2012 #228
I have no problem with people that hunt. Jennicut Aug 2012 #70
i must confess my wife and i killed to deer out of season... madrchsod Aug 2012 #72
In some places they are picked and processed nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #73
could`t find the deer... madrchsod Aug 2012 #75
Thanks, I think I will put a small gallery of the Ranchita fire on the posterous. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #77
In these parts tama Aug 2012 #129
I'm a vegan, dammit. flvegan Aug 2012 #74
As a vegan tama Aug 2012 #136
As a vegan, it doesn't matter what I think. flvegan Aug 2012 #150
Hunting for food is only evil if the hunter is a poor marksman and causes unnecessary pain or.... Walk away Aug 2012 #78
Especially if the food is wasted nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #79
Hunters are environmentalists. I'll bet Republicans have all the fake hunters. gulliver Aug 2012 #85
Chenney is a special case and they exist regardless of party affiliation nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #93
+1 Beearewhyain Aug 2012 #97
lol i love the visualisation there. loli phabay Aug 2012 #123
With you 100% on this Mopar151 Aug 2012 #127
You got it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #180
Emphasize the difference between hunters and irresponsible gun owners Mopar151 Aug 2012 #194
Especially the last one, would be an excellent idea nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #234
K&R pintobean Aug 2012 #94
My dad leaned left, my mom leaned right. Kalidurga Aug 2012 #106
Yup, why I pointed to the stupidity of it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #112
I have a friend in Ky. - he hunts with emilyg Aug 2012 #113
I suspect that area of the country nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #114
Oh yeah? I live in kentucky too. iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #126
And we also treat our domestic animals like shit nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #140
i live in the mountains of virginia and i hunt, so do my neighbours loli phabay Aug 2012 #192
Some people like to promote dependancy. PavePusher Aug 2012 #249
I agree 100% limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #115
Agreed, I even posted some pictures of battery cages on this thread nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #118
Killing for amusement is fucked up. I don't give a good god damn that JFK did it. LeftyMom Aug 2012 #119
What I am telling you is that if you want to win nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #128
Are you trying to explain industrial agriculture to me? LeftyMom Aug 2012 #131
Ah I see, you have a problem nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #135
I am sorry to report that you fail. yewberry Aug 2012 #178
Whatever, good bye nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #185
Responding to actual facts too much for you? yewberry Aug 2012 #189
+1000 nt abelenkpe Aug 2012 #133
youre being a troll. iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #121
Really, so I imagined the OPs pointing out how ONLY republicans hunt nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #137
Wasn't there like one, hotly-contested OP that linked hunting with republicans? yewberry Aug 2012 #159
Yes there was, but that is ok nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #161
Okay, so there was one post, and many people shot it down (rightly) as a bad association to make. yewberry Aug 2012 #170
What divisiveness, and this is NOT one OP nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #173
Divisiveness: yewberry Aug 2012 #187
Big Tent, First World Problems Loudestlib Aug 2012 #134
And industrial agriculture is far more cruel nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #141
I think it's better to unite us with things we agree on. Loudestlib Aug 2012 #149
But first we need to stop this nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #152
Was there someone suggesting we SHOULD "go after" hunting? tkmorris Aug 2012 #139
I understand hunting/fishing. I don't understand arming up to hunt/shoot people Hoyt Aug 2012 #142
THey are not the same thing, really nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #143
I agree. But "hunting" is used as an excuse to refrain from passing sane gun laws. Hoyt Aug 2012 #147
I think that is where an alliance with hunters has to occur nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #151
I agree with "alliance" with hunters idea. I don't support NRA and its attempt to defeat Obama and Hoyt Aug 2012 #157
That is where the NRA will have to have an internal revolt nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #158
Then, they need to vote them out -- but, it's not going to happen. Hoyt Aug 2012 #162
No disagreement there nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #172
The Split You're Talking About Has Already Happened. Paladin Aug 2012 #225
Thanks, suspected as much nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #229
The Fudd in action: Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #241
That's odd, we have nothing against your sniper rifles and combat shotguns: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #269
I Don't Need A Rem. 700 Tarted Up As A "Sniper Rifle." Paladin Aug 2012 #272
Point is, your "traditional" guns function EXACTLY the same way as the ones I posted. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #273
What parts, exactly, mean it is "Tarted Up As A "Sniper Rifle""... PavePusher Aug 2012 #275
Your window of opportunity to use this distinction as a wedge is closing. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #274
That is the generation I remember. Serious, respectful, prudent. The neo-con NRA sucks. freshwest Aug 2012 #175
THere has been a lot of capture, not just the NRA, nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #177
Well, I guess we just have to get some of our Gungeoneers on it. I'm sure none of the NRA... freshwest Aug 2012 #188
Trophy hunting sucks. Trophy fishing sucks. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #146
Well humans have been hunting for the last 100,000 years nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #148
Sorry. your comments don't change the fact that ENJOYING it sucks. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #154
Sorry to bust the bubble nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #155
Amish Farmer HERVEPA Aug 2012 #165
Look, you think that hunting is eeevviillll that is obvious nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #166
Read critically. ENJOYING hunting is evil. Hunting for sport is evil. That is what I said. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #168
Ergo it is evil, good bye nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #169
ENJOYING it is evil! (I thought you said good-bye before). HERVEPA Aug 2012 #182
i dont follow the concepts of good and evil so enjoying being out and about loli phabay Aug 2012 #193
The term free roaming only applies to poultry raised for meat per the USDA Major Nikon Aug 2012 #181
Yep, lay off the hunting and fishing Aerows Aug 2012 #153
I will say this. I love venison, and there are too many deer in many parts of the JDPriestly Aug 2012 #195
It would be far more effective sibelian Aug 2012 #199
I think we should strive to minimize the harm we do to sentient creatures. Vattel Aug 2012 #205
If one were to find hunting evil Capt. Obvious Aug 2012 #208
As a far-left progressive who hunts, fishes and.... Scuba Aug 2012 #214
Hunting is really mainstream, even in cities. This is a losing smear. eom TransitJohn Aug 2012 #216
Sen. Nelson is kind of a douche... just saying. Erose999 Aug 2012 #223
Not the point of the OP nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #233
I'm an atheist, but agree with humans having domain over the animals. Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #226
as long as you eat it barbtries Aug 2012 #231
With some animals, see deer, you can do both actually nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #236
Trophy hunters ARE evil. There's no two ways about it. redqueen Aug 2012 #235
So you think all hunters just kill for the fun of it? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #243
I thought I was pretty clear. redqueen Aug 2012 #250
The problem is that the MAJORITY of hunters are not ones nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #256
Gonna have to agree with you there. zappaman Aug 2012 #257
There's nothing wrong with fishing at all in my opinion. Proles Aug 2012 #238
Sure do agree. Jack Sprat Aug 2012 #239
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Aug 2012 #242
I hope to god you do not eat steak, or chicken nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #251
Agree! patrice Aug 2012 #258
well spoken, Nadin TheMightyFavog Aug 2012 #259
For food, I can see it. Otherwise, there is nothing 'sporting' about hunting. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #260
Deer hunting season, as much as you personally might not agree with it. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #262
I don't make any claim that I'm right; it's really a visceral reaction. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #264
Well one of my local tribes is teaching the young nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #265
By theater, I mean 'the hunt' by candidates with press coverage. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #267
I beat you on the latte drinking :-) nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #268
Most people where I live hunt and/or fish gollygee Aug 2012 #261
Thanks, great post customerserviceguy Aug 2012 #276
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