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MousePlayingDaffodil

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7. The answer to your question, as I see it . . .

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:47 AM

Jan 2019

. . . is that, constitutionally-speaking, the answer is clearly "yes." Under the Constitution, Trump was "elected President" by the vote of the Electors, per Article II, Amendment XII, and the process laid out in 3 U.S.C. Chapter 1. Whatever cheating may have occurred in the course of the general election simply has no bearing on the legitimacy of Trump's election by the Electors.

Any analogy to other situations, apart from the Constitution, is per se irrelevant and not valid.

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Trump is an Illegitimate President Due to a Conspiracy with a Hostile Foreign Power [View all] dlk Jan 2019 OP

We are far from over, but, we are seriously sick. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #1

Sounds nice, but. ginnyinWI Jan 2019 #2

The electoral college gambit would NOT have worked if Traitor Trump had not conspired Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #30

This goes far beyond the Electoral College dlk Jan 2019 #3

I believe you have missed the point . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jan 2019 #4

Well...Thats one persons opinion. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #12

The electoral college is beside the point here. Trump is indeed illegitimate in a big way. triron Jan 2019 #26

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #62

I feel like people take the wrong way to look at this. sarah FAILIN Jan 2019 #8

Fun factoid from that article... LisaM Jan 2019 #54

That is interesting sarah FAILIN Jan 2019 #65

I Believe You Have Glossed Over the Fact of the Russian Conspiracy dlk Jan 2019 #5

Sadly, breaking the law to win still counts as a win Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #6

This Complicated Web Will Take Years, If Ever, to Untangle dlk Jan 2019 #9

The answer to your question, as I see it . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jan 2019 #7

If that's the Case, Doesn't that Invite Future and Even Further Foreign Interference? dlk Jan 2019 #10

This isn't all that difficult . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jan 2019 #33

Hip Hip Huzzah. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #13

Can we finally come to the realization that... Joe941 Jan 2019 #11

How about we remove the russian and install who won? Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #14

I Believe More Than Trump Should Be Removed From Office dlk Jan 2019 #15

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #74

So we should just ignore the Constitution? WillowTree Jan 2019 #19

Americans care about fairness - this is not fair! Joe941 Jan 2019 #34

So we should just ignore the Constitution? WillowTree Jan 2019 #49

The constitution failed to foresee this situation - therefore the constitution can't remedy it. Joe941 Jan 2019 #63

Sure it can. It's right there in said Constitution. Impeachment and conviction. WillowTree Jan 2019 #64

Yep. triron Jan 2019 #35

And you'll be cool with that when the Republicans do it, right? 'Cause you know they will. WillowTree Jan 2019 #50

I've become increasingly alarmed . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jan 2019 #55

HRC said we have to fight hard and ugly THEN go back to the rules. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #40

No. Mrs. Clinton would never suggest disregarding the Constitution. WillowTree Jan 2019 #51

i beg to differ. She didnt say those words exactly. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #52

Run the suggestion that we just throw out the Constitution past her....... WillowTree Jan 2019 #56

I didnt say the constitution. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #57

You're making no earthly sense. WillowTree Jan 2019 #58

G'bye. I won't be seeing you again. Have a good weekend. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #59

Appropriate response when you can't raise an actual, logical argument. WillowTree Jan 2019 #60

I wonder. If the shoe was on the other foot, would the Rs say, oh well, he was KPN Jan 2019 #16

Republicans, Guns in Hand, Would Have Been Rioting in the Streets dlk Jan 2019 #18

Good point. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #45

Fuck no they wouldn't be laying down for it, if HRC had lost the popular vote Crunchy Frog Jan 2019 #71

We got by the stolen election of 2000 and 2004 and if the true facts INdemo Jan 2019 #17

Got by? How so? Look where we are now. KPN Jan 2019 #22

You are coreect but what Im talking about INdemo Jan 2019 #37

Okay. When we survive this one, we had KPN Jan 2019 #38

+10000 triron Jan 2019 #20

+20000 iluvtennis Jan 2019 #25

To Minimize Future Election Thefts, Our Voting Systems Need to be Cleaned Up dlk Jan 2019 #21

Absolutely! StarzGuy Jan 2019 #23

yeah, we have definitely pretty much conceded that we've lost the Space Race n/t anarch Jan 2019 #41

It has nothing to do with whether Congress has spine or not. WillowTree Jan 2019 #43

To suggest that Trump is legitimate is to say that the Constitution really is a suicide pact... First Speaker Jan 2019 #24

Mass protests maltzmax Jan 2019 #27

We're up for it. If the organization happens, we''ll be there again. ffr Jan 2019 #29

Obviously, cilla4progress Jan 2019 #28

Correction, it should be "due to an ongoing conspiracy with a hostile foreign power" cstanleytech Jan 2019 #31

Many of us here have suspected that from theft..er, election..night NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #32

Actually make that *TWO* hostile foreign powers. Initech Jan 2019 #36

we have no constitutional remedy for this kind of situation - the America that was, is gone anarch Jan 2019 #39

No he's not... brooklynite Jan 2019 #42

Not this again. DavidDvorkin Jan 2019 #44

Proof positive that hope really does spring eternal. WillowTree Jan 2019 #53

And leads to denial of reality. DavidDvorkin Jan 2019 #61

I have news for you. You'll be hearing more and more of "this again" as time goes on... First Speaker Jan 2019 #68

It remains meaningless, a fantasy, a pointless distraction. DavidDvorkin Jan 2019 #70

Yes, the trump presidency is invalid. patphil Jan 2019 #46

Totally agree! 1democracy Jan 2019 #47

Oh goody sarisataka Jan 2019 #48

This has always been a strong possibility, for me. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #66

I guarantee as the evidence humbled_opinion Jan 2019 #67

Pence s Pardon Power is for federal offense s..... pbmus Jan 2019 #77

This has been brought up numerous times before DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2019 #69

YAAAAAAS!!!!!!! nt Baltimike Jan 2019 #72

I agree with the title but not that Cha Jan 2019 #73

kick for visibility triron Jan 2019 #75

Agree Meowmee Jan 2019 #76