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DemocratSinceBirth

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51. We're being disingenuous. She just didn't oppose gay marriage

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 10:31 PM

Jan 2019

She just didn't oppose gay marriage. She called gay people asking for their right to marry "a small group of homosexual activists" and favored conversion therapy.

If you can cite an example of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton favoring conversion therapy and calling gay people asking for the right to marry a "small group of homosexual activists" you might have an argument but you don't.

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Tulsi Gabbard & family informing everyone they can't marry each other...or a dog [View all] RandySF Jan 2019 OP

She was a kid with a right wing father. irresistable Jan 2019 #1

Thanks for tonight's edition of meaningless whataboutism. BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #2

The only thing meaningless is the effort to demean Tulsi Gabbard for making the same transition.... irresistable Jan 2019 #13

I knew as a teenager marrying a person of your own gender wasn't like marrying your dog, DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #33

Since I know that you supported President Obama before he came out in favor of gay marriage... irresistable Jan 2019 #41

I don't believe President Obama worked for an anti-gay group that backed conversion therapy DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #42

She was a kid, raised by a father who believed in that stuff. irresistable Jan 2019 #44

If she held that DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #45

From your article. irresistable Jan 2019 #46

She called gay people asking for their right to marry "a small group of homosexual activists" DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #47

Your mind is closed. irresistable Jan 2019 #48

If DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #49

If you believe that people brought up to believe hurtful things can't learn and change.. irresistable Jan 2019 #50

We're being disingenuous. She just didn't oppose gay marriage DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #51

Why do those additional things matter when Tulsi disavowed all of it and apologized? irresistable Jan 2019 #53

She changed her mind to remain in the Democratic party DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #56

How did their beliefs change because "times changed"? irresistable Jan 2019 #73

Robert Byrd apologized for joining the Klan. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #75

I am getting the sickening feeling.... irresistable Jan 2019 #80

There is a difference DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #81

There is a difference between apologizing and asking forgiveness.... irresistable Jan 2019 #86

It's not her opposition to same sex marriage that was so offensive. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #88

No need, as you explained...they didn't support gay marriage.... irresistable Jan 2019 #92

We're lucky that Tulsi stopped DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #94

We're lucky that Tulsi went to Iraq and the seriousness of that experience... irresistable Jan 2019 #95

Joining the military turned her from a homophobe to a believer in full rights for glbtq people? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #96

It showed her that not only that views were wrong. irresistable Jan 2019 #97

I have had epiphanies but none for personal gain. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #99

You forgot about that other thing that coincided with Tulsi's "epiphany" irresistable Jan 2019 #100

Yes. It's common knowledge that joining the military turns one from bigotry to open mindedness DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #101

Well, you have a good rest of the evening, DSB. irresistable Jan 2019 #102

It's easier to forgive ... backabby-blue Jan 2019 #65

I do understand that on one level. irresistable Jan 2019 #68

I suppose it is for some backabby-blue Jan 2019 #70

It's not the same. Obama never referred to me personally in hateful terms. yardwork Jan 2019 #57

she was very young and had been programmed by her dad. irresistable Jan 2019 #64

Her recent statements aren't much better. yardwork Jan 2019 #71

Obama and most Democrats were in support of civil unions karynnj Jan 2019 #115

She has problems druidity33 Jan 2019 #18

Can you point me to any examples? irresistable Jan 2019 #19

if you google... druidity33 Jan 2019 #22

very little actual substance in those articles....more of a cobbling together of assertions. irresistable Jan 2019 #23

Well, it's out there... druidity33 Jan 2019 #24

As she should be... we've learned not to treat candidates with kid gloves, haven't we?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #30

I did look but found no LGBTQ laws that she suggested irisblue Jan 2019 #26

This FreeState Jan 2019 #35

I found these statements... irisblue Jan 2019 #37

She has an "F" rating on LGBTQ issues. yardwork Jan 2019 #55

Actually no, she has a 100% rating from the Human Rights Campaign. irresistable Jan 2019 #62

The LGBT Caucus in Hawaii declined to support her. yardwork Jan 2019 #72

The LGBT caucus in Hawaii remembers young Tulsi and her dad. irresistable Jan 2019 #74

I dislike Gabbard for numerous reasons. yardwork Jan 2019 #84

I disagree with your characterization. irresistable Jan 2019 #90

When I was a teenager I didn't understand what is now marriage equality. Laffy Kat Jan 2019 #3

I agree. Going on fox news periodically and bashing President Obama periodically is enough for me still_one Jan 2019 #4

Thanks, still_one.. Cha Jan 2019 #6

................................................................................. still_one Jan 2019 #7

Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard accuses fellow Democrats of 'religious bigotry' in questioning judicial Cha Jan 2019 #10

Thanks Cha. That is a huge difference from the initial story that Gabbard was pushing. I fell still_one Jan 2019 #11

Here's some more from that article if you Cha Jan 2019 #12

IIRC, she wasn't nearly as protective when it came to Al Franken misanthrope Jan 2019 #25

I know, it is easy to get that confused, and understandable still_one Jan 2019 #43

Indeed. OnDoutside Jan 2019 #31

I saw a Tweet where RT Cha Jan 2019 #32

One must always be vigilant. There's no doubt that Putin's only hope is to try and turn a Dem, other OnDoutside Jan 2019 #38

Vigilance is Key. Cha Jan 2019 #39

I guess we should be wary of going all "McCarthy", but when people say genuinely odd stuff, OnDoutside Jan 2019 #107

The evidence is out there.. Cha Jan 2019 #112

That's pretty rough alright. OnDoutside Jan 2019 #113

WE have plenty of candidates-- no reason to settle for this one- dawg day Jan 2019 #82

Exactly OnDoutside Jan 2019 #106

Gay man here - nope FreeState Jan 2019 #36

I understand. I have a bi son. Laffy Kat Jan 2019 #40

I did. moriah Jan 2019 #63

Since she's running..it will be good for people to review her record Cha Jan 2019 #5

Well this is certainly enlightening. Thanks for posting. Laffy Kat Jan 2019 #8

When do your campaigns against Al Green, Marcy Kaptur and Steny Hoyer begin....with their F rating? irresistable Jan 2019 #14

Are they running for potus? Cha Jan 2019 #15

Do you know what that F rating actually means? irresistable Jan 2019 #16

WHat she did when she was a teenager still living at home should be off limits. KitSileya Jan 2019 #9

Would DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #34

I lulz'd KG Jan 2019 #17

1998 PDittie Jan 2019 #20

Is 2004 late enough? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #61

Kick BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #21

Likewise. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #28

Brave progressives shenmue Jan 2019 #27

She was never someone I was going to throw my weight behind Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #29

She held those views to well into her twenties. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #52

1998! Polybius Jan 2019 #54

And in 2004, when she was the Hawaii State Legislature: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #58

Anything from the past 10 years? Polybius Jan 2019 #59

What if a candidate made racist comments as late as 2004? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #60

I have to be honest with you Polybius Jan 2019 #76

But it's ok to refer to gay people the way she did when she was 22? yardwork Jan 2019 #78

Unfortunately, many of us were opposed to marriage equality in 2004 Polybius Jan 2019 #83

Are you gay? If not, by what right do you forgive? yardwork Jan 2019 #85

No Polybius Jan 2019 #89

By 2004 or so most of DU was for marriage equality. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #98

She made these remarks as late as 2004. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #79

At what point is the statute of limitations on horrible statements from 2004? Polybius Jan 2019 #87

How about the recent statements objecting.... moriah Jan 2019 #103

Other than being the Assad thing, the Trump "common ground" thing, the Steve Bannon thing, LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #104

Cute avatar featuring a Native American genocider tenderfoot Jan 2019 #67

Good catch. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #69

She still holds those views... tenderfoot Jan 2019 #93

Yet it's on DU for all to pick if they choose Polybius Jan 2019 #77

Trump likes him a lot too. tenderfoot Jan 2019 #91

Whoa! Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #108

If there's a problem with him, he shouldn't be on the list of avatars to choose from Polybius Jan 2019 #109

What's not to like... tenderfoot Jan 2019 #110

Once again, he's on the official list of avatars provided by DU Polybius Jan 2019 #111

LOL! I'm sure he would have bolted had he lived long enough for the civil rights movement tenderfoot Jan 2019 #114

Thanks, same to you! Polybius Jan 2019 #116

Some of these responses depress me. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #66

As I said a month ago, her public positions now appear to be in line with the Party, LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #105