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16. Nailed it!

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Studies showing "benefits of circumcision" highly flawed [View all] JackRiddler Aug 2012 OP

How about we avoid the usual juvenilia in this space... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #1

Thank you for posting this rebuttal against those with a blind agenda. qb Aug 2012 #2

But what is their "agenda"? NT Trillo Aug 2012 #3

Justifying more than a hundred million foreskin removals JackRiddler Aug 2012 #4

Most of your points could apply to anyone who takes a one-way position on something. randome Aug 2012 #19

Does the World Health Organization and the UN have a blind agenda? pnwmom Aug 2012 #76

What about the entire medical establishment of Europe? JackRiddler Aug 2012 #85

The "entire" medical establishment except for the members of the WHO. pnwmom Aug 2012 #86

Doesn't matter: You can't cite doctors per se as authorities... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #92

My 89 year old grandfather-in-law needed to get his removed. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #5

Is this some kind of joke logic? JackRiddler Aug 2012 #6

What the hell is with the hostility? Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #7

Psych 101 lightcameron Aug 2012 #9

Welcome to DU! Fumesucker Aug 2012 #12

Nailed it! HangOnKids Aug 2012 #16

All right then. Thanks. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #20

Is that post the model you wish to set for "not being juvenile"? Bonobo Aug 2012 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author JackRiddler Aug 2012 #39

Removing body parts without consent or medical necessity cannot be justified 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #18

My grandmother had a hysterectomy at a much younger age than that... nt Romulox Aug 2012 #50

Again? When will the "No, really, it's fine..." agenda tire out? lightcameron Aug 2012 #8

Circumcision is rare here Prophet 451 Aug 2012 #10

Indeed. Empirical population studies... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #13

There's a surprise. Alduin Aug 2012 #11

Not quite Prophet 451 Aug 2012 #14

Well in cases such as those, it's fine. Alduin Aug 2012 #22

good info. Whisp Aug 2012 #15

I believe it was/is another ritual sacrifice. Mariana Aug 2012 #25

This was from the same group that thought killing animals cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #27

I really object to the idea that a baby will forget the pain Whisp Aug 2012 #29

A baby's brain laundry_queen Aug 2012 #102

What's done iis done Whisp Aug 2012 #107

They got the *right* answer, who cares how they arrived there? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #17

This. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #21

This is a little early, then next circumcision thread isn't due till September 3rd-- snooper2 Aug 2012 #23

Actually, the "next circumcision thread" JackRiddler Aug 2012 #35

How come no one who is uncut never posts in these threads musiclawyer Aug 2012 #24

Those uncut do not want to be cut unc70 Aug 2012 #30

I am the mother of a son who figured out that the only real reason for cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #26

First there was a pubic hair thread, then one about small penises, and now circumcision. madinmaryland Aug 2012 #28

Oh, the circumcision one is ongoing Confusious Aug 2012 #31

A guy who has a blog and a philosophy degree Confusious Aug 2012 #32

I knew that someone would employ this outright lie. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #33

He has no medical credentials. Union Scribe Aug 2012 #34

It is absolutely ad hominem... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #36

Ad hominem Confusious Aug 2012 #54

No relevance to anything that you say. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #58

You accused me of ad hominem attacks Confusious Aug 2012 #60

Yes, you engaged in ad hominem response. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #62

Repost, seems you didn't read it the first time Confusious Aug 2012 #66

BTW, The American Academy Of Family Physicians Is About To Release A New Statement DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2012 #108

So I guess if you're a philosophy major Confusious Aug 2012 #55

You show no evidence you've read what he wrote... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #57

Citing doctors doesn't mean you are one Confusious Aug 2012 #64

Appeal To Authority DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2012 #109

Wrong. (What is appeal to authority?) JackRiddler Aug 2012 #112

You keep doing that Confusious Aug 2012 #119

Why have I spent any time on you? JackRiddler Aug 2012 #125

I don't know why have you? Confusious Aug 2012 #131

Seems you think every Confusious Aug 2012 #120

How about you acknowledge it's doctors, too? JackRiddler Aug 2012 #124

Well you keep saying it Confusious Aug 2012 #132

Earp mainly treats the findings of medical doctors "with degrees and experience in the field." JackRiddler Aug 2012 #135

I could "treat" Einsteins' math Confusious Aug 2012 #136

Wait, what? Look at those numbers. Bonobo Aug 2012 #37

Sigh. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #40

Sigh... the numbers still don't make sense. Please address the math only for a minute. Bonobo Aug 2012 #41

I wonder what the benefits of circumcision on crickets are... nt Bonobo Aug 2012 #44

These crickets aren't going to die soon if you don't give them some air. nt Bonobo Aug 2012 #48

Unless I having a brain fart, the percent reduction is TPaine7 Aug 2012 #42

Thanks, math was never my strong suit but I was always a decent logical thinker. Bonobo Aug 2012 #43

The Condom Argument Is A Bit Of A Red Herring DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2012 #111

"The condom argument" includes the idea... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #113

I Don't Think Anybody Is Arguing Circumcision Is A Substitute For Using A Condom DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2012 #114

But that's only if you accept the numbers from highly flawed... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #118

I don't know where they got the 60% cpwm17 Aug 2012 #45

All of the things you say could be true. Bonobo Aug 2012 #46

Earp wasn't referring to percentage reduction... My Pet Goat Aug 2012 #52

Why bother? JackRiddler Aug 2012 #59

No they don't. Until you address posts #41, #42, #43, et al, you have bombed DU with misinformation. Bonobo Aug 2012 #47

Your one post that brought up any point was addressed JackRiddler Aug 2012 #49

You did not explain the grievous math error. Bonobo Aug 2012 #51

I explained you grievous error of understanding... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #61

Circumcisions should only be performed at an Olive Garden by nursing mothers who own a pit bull. 11 Bravo Aug 2012 #53

blah, blah, blah ldf Aug 2012 #56

Oh good lord...there should be a dungeon for circumcision threads, just apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #63

I'm so sorry you were forced into this thread at gunpoint. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #65

We shouldn't have to see this nonsense non-issue in the main forums, apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #67

You seem to have a strong opinion on it. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #71

My "strong opinion" is that it is none of JackRiddler's business if people apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #73

That's not directly the topic of this thread, is it now? JackRiddler Aug 2012 #79

Yes, it is, Jack; and, further, all the rest of your rattle & hum apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #82

All of which has nothing to do with what JackRiddler Aug 2012 #91

Try reading it again, Jack: you'll get there eventually: apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #134

BTW, haven't seen much of you in "Creative Speculation" since the TOS apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #68

I have no interest in that forum. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #69

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #70

By the way, I haven't seen that much of you... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #72

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #74

BTW, anyone who wants a good laugh at this breezy hand-waving apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #77

I suppose it's flattering that you remember my username... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #81

Uh-huh. Once again, to onlookers: check out that link for yourselves. apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #83

"Conspiracy theories" are more your thing. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #84

Uh-huh. n/t. apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #133

Personal body integrity and choice are not acceptable issues to discuss here? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #75

4th Law, you and I don't agree on a damn thing, ever Scootaloo Aug 2012 #105

I'm going with the Elder Gods thing 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #115

Speaking From Personal Experience.... The River Aug 2012 #78

So, you made a decision. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #80

Parents make decisions for kids all the time. Bonobo Aug 2012 #87

Most doctors in the world do not recommend male genital mutilation. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #89

I only have anecdotal info. Bonobo Aug 2012 #97

Just imagine how much better it would be to just cut the whole organ. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #100

And Having Experienced Both Sides The River Aug 2012 #88

Missing the point: YOU made the decision. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #90

I question this person's intellectual honesty joeglow3 Aug 2012 #93

I question whether you even read the OP or the blog post... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #94

Is that your way of saying you will not address the CLEAR attempt at deception? joeglow3 Aug 2012 #95

Earp addresses this quite well, and not at all deceptively... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #98

As I point out below, he claims condom use CURES AIDS. joeglow3 Aug 2012 #116

This guy also sucks at math joeglow3 Aug 2012 #96

I wonder if you are a contributor at this place. Bonobo Aug 2012 #99

Nope. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #101

The bottom line is this... Scootaloo Aug 2012 #103

I asked my 1 year old great nephew about this blueamy66 Aug 2012 #104

A testimony to how privileged living leads people to search for causes of outrage Bonobo Aug 2012 #106

Bonobo, you're making a bad argument. Scootaloo Aug 2012 #117

I'll tell you what I remember - lynne Aug 2012 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author blueamy66 Aug 2012 #128

My son is 21 now and, when he was born, liberalhistorian Aug 2012 #110

People whose parents had it done to them Mariana Aug 2012 #121

Ultimately that is what we see on these threads... JackRiddler Aug 2012 #127

My son is 20 and not circumcised - lynne Aug 2012 #122

Bravo & thanks for the story! JackRiddler Aug 2012 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author blueamy66 Aug 2012 #129

Glad to hear your son, like mine, liberalhistorian Aug 2012 #130