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Honeycombe8

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38. I'm sure you'll like it. But the response to the SOTU is successful if it's not memorable.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 10:53 PM
Jan 2019

The ones that people remember are those that were particularly bad or something funny happened, like Rubio reaching off camera awkwardly to get his glass of water. Or Joe Kennedy's chapsticked lips (although he did a fine response).

It's an honor, and I'm sure Abrams will do fine. But it won't be a springboard to anything, IMO. A speech at the convention is, if she gets that. This may be a test for that.

Why the State of the Union response is always so bad

Supposedly, we are to believe, this is an honor. It has been framed by party leaders and pundits as a path to stardom, a sign that Ernst has some standing and a future in her party. Don't believe it. She has a future, but her response won't likely be a memorable launching pad.

People only remember the response to the State of the Union when it goes badly. (It's kind of like NFL refereeing -- memorable only in its poor execution.) Like it did for Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal who displayed about as much charisma as Steve Urkel when he delivered the response in 2009. And of course Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) had his bottled water moment. (Rubio's internal thought process: "If I maintain eye contact with the camera, then maybe nobody will notice that I'm about to grab this tiny bottle of water and take a tiny sip" ). ***

The SOTU response is also supposed to be political theater. But it comes after what is typically a long (hour plus) speech and well past 10 pm on the East Coast. So, no one pays much attention to start.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/01/20/why-the-state-of-the-union-response-is-always-so-bad/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31f630cc3f06

The State of the Union response — and why it's always terrible — explained

On Tuesday, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley will deliver the response to the president's State of the Union address. It's an honor and a national platform for a Republican rising star. But it's also a very, very tough job.

Opposition parties have been trying to craft an effective State of the Union response for 50 years, and they've hardly ever succeeded. The most-remembered State of the Union responses are instead the ones that go awry....

https://www.vox.com/2015/1/20/7860325/state-of-the-union-response
She needs to run for President. In It to Win It Jan 2019 #1
She should run in.. Callado119 Jan 2019 #19
Great ending. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #2
I'm totally with you on this. Great ending to the OP! WheelWalker Jan 2019 #53
HR1 Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #3
Yep EffieBlack Jan 2019 #5
Abrams hasn't been demonized (yet) Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #7
Yes - This could be an Obama 2004 DNC Convention Speech Moment EffieBlack Jan 2019 #10
I don't think so. Usually it's not that helpful for the politician. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #24
Stacey Abrams isn't Bobby Jindal EffieBlack Jan 2019 #27
I'm sure you'll like it. But the response to the SOTU is successful if it's not memorable. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #38
It can't be because it's never been EffieBlack Jan 2019 #39
Let's just hope she does well. Lot of pressure. She seems up to the task. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #40
Obama's was successful AND memorable. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #42
It must have been great for you to remember, since he never gave a response to the SOTU! nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #43
LOL, I was referring to his convention speech. But I have strong expectations for Abrams pnwmom Jan 2019 #44
I remember his convention speech. It was the first time I heard him. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #45
I'm with you. I think she SHOULD get to the national level. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #46
Umm. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #14
She's definitely part of our party's deepening bench strength. calimary Jan 2019 #17
Smart & Beyond Me. Jan 2019 #4
I couldn't agree more. panader0 Jan 2019 #6
k&r Starry Messenger Jan 2019 #8
I agree gratuitous Jan 2019 #9
Exact same here, and she knocked it out of the park (nt) mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #12
I'm still not happy that Pelosi is letting trump give the SOTU OliverQ Jan 2019 #11
I think it's the smart move EffieBlack Jan 2019 #15
I see what you mean, but it might go both ways. Trump can't claim victory, either More_Cowbell Jan 2019 #32
She is extremely likeable, genuine and she is an excellent speaker. If she wasn't that she UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #13
Tee hee. Trump will be just the opening act/undercard. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2019 #16
It's interesting that Beto O'Rourke got all the attention and presidential run buzz EffieBlack Jan 2019 #18
Well, in all fairness, Beto's race for senate was on the federal level. MoonchildCA Jan 2019 #47
That"s really threading the needle EffieBlack Jan 2019 #48
I'm certainly not arguing your point. MoonchildCA Jan 2019 #50
Sometimes the most obvious reason is the reason EffieBlack Jan 2019 #51
I just heard the news a few minutes ago. I agree. It is a BRILLIANT decision. Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #20
Younme both /nt EffieBlack Jan 2019 #21
"She has led the charge for voting rights, which is at the root of just about everything else." Cha Jan 2019 #31
Anbolutely! Abrams heart and eloquence will make PresBrainFart look even stupider than usual. stuffmatters Jan 2019 #22
I know it's not the convention... Chicago1980 Jan 2019 #23
Stacey and Beto the future Nancy and Chuck would ha e been nice. I like her though. Pepsidog Jan 2019 #25
It's a great move mcar Jan 2019 #26
Stacey Abrams represents the next Generation of Leaders........ ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #28
POC: 4 . . . White Guys: 2 Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #33
Soooo thrilled with this! Basement Beat Jan 2019 #29
That's what I was thinking! & she was asked 3 weeks ago! Cha Jan 2019 #30
And it didn't leak ... EffieBlack Jan 2019 #35
That's right! Stacy: At a moment when our nation needs to hear from leaders who can unite for a.. Cha Jan 2019 #36
There is more in your post than most know. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #37
Amen oberliner Jan 2019 #34
She's a force of nature. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #41
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #49
I am really looking forward to her rebuttal to trump's SOTU Gothmog Jan 2019 #52
Wow brilliant ! proud patriot Jan 2019 #54
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