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There are many good democrats who may run, but IMO Biden is too old. I wouldn't be against him in2herbs Jan 2019 #1
The older I get, the less age is a factor. dchill Jan 2019 #2
+ And what also becomes more important to me is someone who thinks big Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #5
The older I get, the MORE age is a factor. trof Jan 2019 #96
The older I get calguy Jan 2019 #104
Have you retired? treestar Jan 2019 #116
That is precisely why he is good. Blend age/wisdom with youthful, energetic VP Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #3
That is what quite a few ageist DUers said about Nancy Pelosi. Age should not be determinative hlthe2b Jan 2019 #4
Nor should "genderists" and "minorityists" - Best person first - what they look like, Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #7
You may think Biden is too .."old"..Running against Trump, I believe that age would Stuart G Jan 2019 #13
The next president is going to have her work cut out for her. She will need help. Look how Obama in2herbs Jan 2019 #37
So no males need apply, huh? Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #59
Obama went gray treestar Jan 2019 #117
Or Kamala Harris oberliner Jan 2019 #6
Great person, of course. Doubtful she could turn anything from purple Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #8
I would say Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida would be very much in play oberliner Jan 2019 #19
That is false IMO. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #36
I think the near win by Abrams in GA bodes well for a progressive AA candidate oberliner Jan 2019 #43
Except both Abrams and Gillum both lost in states they are from to candidates that cheated standingtall Jan 2019 #65
I agree. Love her but I don't see her turning TX Blue. Dem_4_Life Jan 2019 #22
Yes. Think it's different when you come from a red state perspective. And you just Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #25
Yes me too! Once TX turns blue then we will keep it blue. Dem_4_Life Jan 2019 #26
Yes, it still hurts that we came so close with Beto - but saw it coming - just looking Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #40
IMO Harris is high risk as I don't see her doing well in PA and MI Amishman Jan 2019 #15
She could be strong in GA and FL oberliner Jan 2019 #18
Why do say FL? Don't see that as a bastion of liberalism Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #41
Florida was very close in 2016 and Andrew Gillum almost won the state in 2018 oberliner Jan 2019 #45
Sexism would do her in. I love her but see her as risky.Look at what they're doing to her already Dream Girl Jan 2019 #52
Hillary only lost by 1 percentage point oberliner Jan 2019 #54
I agree - but it's my red state perspective. I don't want to be left out. I want Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #109
Her strong talk against the NRA and calling for gun restrictions will hurt her there Amishman Jan 2019 #72
Exactly. I like that "high risk" (great person but high risk). Of course we don't Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #27
Biden would be the person to bring us as close to having Obama back. Doreen Jan 2019 #9
Why won't it happen? Biden/Beto? it's perfect - especially if they run together and Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #29
I really liked Beto until the dental appointment. We have tremendous issues and watching 33taw Jan 2019 #39
I thought the same. Heck, people got upset about Howard Dean yelling in Iowa, but O'Rourke's dental Hoyt Jan 2019 #87
So I guess you were fine with Biden taking $200K to give a speech to help Fred Upton, pnwmom Jan 2019 #31
You are misrepresenting what he did Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #58
No, I'm not. It was during his campaign, and Biden knew it would help him. Upton even made pnwmom Jan 2019 #61
Yes you did and are still doing it Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #113
You're the one who's naive if you think someone as experienced as Biden didn't know pnwmom Jan 2019 #114
I agree. Desert grandma Jan 2019 #10
That's what I think too. Let the fine progressive people run committees and Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #17
We lost over 1000 Democratic seats when delisen Jan 2019 #11
Sounds like chump change baggage compared to Trump. Crime rates were very Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #21
Biden will be subject to the same bs attacks that Clinton was delisen Jan 2019 #42
+1 to all this. Let's also not forget his role in making student loans impossible to discharge Maven Jan 2019 #63
Correct. Age is benign compared to his other baggage. Doremus Jan 2019 #64
Would stick my neck out and say Texas is prime to turn blue - with Joe running. Add Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #12
I like Joe Biden and would support him if he runs Gothmog Jan 2019 #14
Don't you think he would do well here in TX ? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #23
Yes, I think that Joe will do well here Gothmog Jan 2019 #24
I believe he would absolutely, positively not beat Trump. enough Jan 2019 #16
Experience, knowledge and intelligence is what we need. bdamomma Jan 2019 #20
When I hear people say this, I think they must be a guy. I'm sure some women must be pnwmom Jan 2019 #28
ME, my sister, and my best friend - That's three ! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #32
So many in PA didn't like Hillary, unfortunately Sugarcoated Jan 2019 #47
Well, by the time 24 other states have voted, including Texas and CA, pnwmom Jan 2019 #62
In the general Joe will win it back for us Sugarcoated Jan 2019 #73
Not if he can't win the primaries. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #74
Good point. May end up being very split with the Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #76
It's way too early to know -- the race feels very different to me this time, pnwmom Jan 2019 #79
It's different to me because we have got to get rid of trump Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #88
I'm with you. It's life or death and we need the best candidate to beat Trump. pnwmom Jan 2019 #91
I have always liked Brown and wonder too Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #99
We gotta stop thinking it will be trump. If Mueller Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #100
You're absolutely right about that. And if Pence survives, I'm afraid pnwmom Jan 2019 #111
Well if trump doesn't survive..hard to believe his Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #124
If he does win the primary Sugarcoated Feb 2019 #128
Electoral college treestar Jan 2019 #120
There are swing states among the 24. But the electoral college doesn't apply pnwmom Jan 2019 #121
+1 Maven Jan 2019 #60
Joe's 76 right now and would be pushing 78 by November 2020 RT Atlanta Jan 2019 #30
Do you agree with other poster that Harris could win GA? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #33
In a fair fight (and that's a big IF) yes RT Atlanta Jan 2019 #46
Do you think Abrams will bring that sad state of affairs up on Tuesday? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #102
I sure hope so - she's filed a suit against the state RT Atlanta Jan 2019 #106
I'm tired of old white men ruining this country Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #34
Good point. I'm an oldster and agree it's time to pass the reins to the next generations. Doremus Jan 2019 #68
Old white men who are democrats treestar Jan 2019 #119
Is there anyone else who would...absolutely, positively beat Trump?..I can think of one: Stuart G Jan 2019 #35
Michelle is the only one who I can safely say would be a lock to beat that POS. Celerity Jan 2019 #118
He would win us back Sugarcoated Jan 2019 #38
Biden is about 4 years older than Trump. honest.abe Jan 2019 #44
Joe can hand it back Sugarcoated Jan 2019 #49
Until every candidates is forced to show a birth certificate mainstreetonce Jan 2019 #50
And Biden looks 15 years younger than Trump and is in better shape than most 50 year olds emulatorloo Jan 2019 #94
Good points. Yeah, Biden would probably do well and win.. honest.abe Jan 2019 #98
She is definitely on the top of my list! emulatorloo Jan 2019 #101
Kamala is on the top of my list. womanofthehills Jan 2019 #125
Don't Buy It colsohlibgal Jan 2019 #48
He can beat obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2019 #51
Biden/Harris has a nice ring to it! OhZone Jan 2019 #53
Agree! We must must win! Thekaspervote Jan 2019 #55
This is one reason I love him, breaking the Gish Gallop! OhZone Jan 2019 #56
As I recall Biden actually . . . peggysue2 Jan 2019 #67
Sorry, but this is the conventional white guy wisdom, and I don't buy it. Maven Jan 2019 #57
Only some of them are in a cult. Most of the voters there are not MAGAts. OhZone Jan 2019 #69
I agree underpants Jan 2019 #66
I agree SCantiGOP Jan 2019 #70
Biden is my 2nd choice If Bernie doesn't run. Joe941 Jan 2019 #71
I believe Biden will beat Trump. But to me, we must win. Whoever is our candidate must Stuart G Jan 2019 #75
I have to agree, although personally, I would prefer marybourg Jan 2019 #77
Joe would wipe the shit eating grin off his face tavernier Jan 2019 #78
only a woman can beat tRump. Kurt V. Jan 2019 #80
I just hope that whoever the person is, wins. Yes, I think Biden will win, but I do not care as Stuart G Jan 2019 #81
i love biden for his basic human decency. However, the way tRump plowed thru his primary against Kurt V. Jan 2019 #84
I think younger voters will not be inspired by Biden womanofthehills Jan 2019 #126
I think almost any Democrat will beat rump (and at least one putative independent). shanny Jan 2019 #82
There is a lady who in my opinion could "transform this country and the world" but Stuart G Jan 2019 #85
+1 Kurt V. Jan 2019 #93
Just ignore the midterm results and go for the old white guy obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #83
Geithner is the one! WeekiWater Jan 2019 #86
Are you referring to ...Timothy Geithner? Obamas Sec of Treasury? Stuart G Jan 2019 #90
Yes. Made the correction. NT WeekiWater Jan 2019 #112
I agree. Biden/Warren. Autumn Jan 2019 #89
That is an interesting combination. emulatorloo Jan 2019 #95
I would rather have Inslee/Warren * but IMO for foreign policy repair Biden is necessary. Autumn Jan 2019 #97
Anything can happen...it is so early in this upcoming election cycle....Another example: Stuart G Jan 2019 #92
I'm not so convinced myself. Crunchy Frog Jan 2019 #103
He's the worst President in history; how could ANY of our candidates lose to him? MadDAsHell Jan 2019 #105
Joe Biden would be a lock for a BIG WIN. democratisphere Jan 2019 #107
He would take tRump behind the shed. Joe941 Jan 2019 #108
Joe Biden for me.. Beto or Klobuchar LakeArenal Jan 2019 #110
So an all-white ticket? Great! pnwmom Jan 2019 #115
Your response makes no sense. LakeArenal Jan 2019 #122
No way, dude! We must nominate a gay, disabled, minority trans wiccan! McCamy Taylor Jan 2019 #123
We wouldn't ordinarily need Joe Biden. Nor would he perhaps ordinarily be elected. WheelWalker Feb 2019 #127
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