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117. Obama went gray
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:34 PM
Jan 2019

Due to progression from age 47 to age 55. That happens no matter what stress you have. Obama was not stressed by the presidency. He is the ultimate of aplomb. Genetics too. I had a lot of grey before 40 and was never president. It was going to happen whether I felt stress or not.

There are many good democrats who may run, but IMO Biden is too old. I wouldn't be against him in2herbs Jan 2019 #1
The older I get, the less age is a factor. dchill Jan 2019 #2
+ And what also becomes more important to me is someone who thinks big Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #5
The older I get, the MORE age is a factor. trof Jan 2019 #96
The older I get calguy Jan 2019 #104
Have you retired? treestar Jan 2019 #116
That is precisely why he is good. Blend age/wisdom with youthful, energetic VP Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #3
That is what quite a few ageist DUers said about Nancy Pelosi. Age should not be determinative hlthe2b Jan 2019 #4
Nor should "genderists" and "minorityists" - Best person first - what they look like, Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #7
You may think Biden is too .."old"..Running against Trump, I believe that age would Stuart G Jan 2019 #13
The next president is going to have her work cut out for her. She will need help. Look how Obama in2herbs Jan 2019 #37
So no males need apply, huh? Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #59
Obama went gray treestar Jan 2019 #117
Or Kamala Harris oberliner Jan 2019 #6
Great person, of course. Doubtful she could turn anything from purple Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #8
I would say Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida would be very much in play oberliner Jan 2019 #19
That is false IMO. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #36
I think the near win by Abrams in GA bodes well for a progressive AA candidate oberliner Jan 2019 #43
Except both Abrams and Gillum both lost in states they are from to candidates that cheated standingtall Jan 2019 #65
I agree. Love her but I don't see her turning TX Blue. Dem_4_Life Jan 2019 #22
Yes. Think it's different when you come from a red state perspective. And you just Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #25
Yes me too! Once TX turns blue then we will keep it blue. Dem_4_Life Jan 2019 #26
Yes, it still hurts that we came so close with Beto - but saw it coming - just looking Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #40
IMO Harris is high risk as I don't see her doing well in PA and MI Amishman Jan 2019 #15
She could be strong in GA and FL oberliner Jan 2019 #18
Why do say FL? Don't see that as a bastion of liberalism Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #41
Florida was very close in 2016 and Andrew Gillum almost won the state in 2018 oberliner Jan 2019 #45
Sexism would do her in. I love her but see her as risky.Look at what they're doing to her already Dream Girl Jan 2019 #52
Hillary only lost by 1 percentage point oberliner Jan 2019 #54
I agree - but it's my red state perspective. I don't want to be left out. I want Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #109
Her strong talk against the NRA and calling for gun restrictions will hurt her there Amishman Jan 2019 #72
Exactly. I like that "high risk" (great person but high risk). Of course we don't Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #27
Biden would be the person to bring us as close to having Obama back. Doreen Jan 2019 #9
Why won't it happen? Biden/Beto? it's perfect - especially if they run together and Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #29
I really liked Beto until the dental appointment. We have tremendous issues and watching 33taw Jan 2019 #39
I thought the same. Heck, people got upset about Howard Dean yelling in Iowa, but O'Rourke's dental Hoyt Jan 2019 #87
So I guess you were fine with Biden taking $200K to give a speech to help Fred Upton, pnwmom Jan 2019 #31
You are misrepresenting what he did Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #58
No, I'm not. It was during his campaign, and Biden knew it would help him. Upton even made pnwmom Jan 2019 #61
Yes you did and are still doing it Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #113
You're the one who's naive if you think someone as experienced as Biden didn't know pnwmom Jan 2019 #114
I agree. Desert grandma Jan 2019 #10
That's what I think too. Let the fine progressive people run committees and Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #17
We lost over 1000 Democratic seats when delisen Jan 2019 #11
Sounds like chump change baggage compared to Trump. Crime rates were very Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #21
Biden will be subject to the same bs attacks that Clinton was delisen Jan 2019 #42
+1 to all this. Let's also not forget his role in making student loans impossible to discharge Maven Jan 2019 #63
Correct. Age is benign compared to his other baggage. Doremus Jan 2019 #64
Would stick my neck out and say Texas is prime to turn blue - with Joe running. Add Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #12
I like Joe Biden and would support him if he runs Gothmog Jan 2019 #14
Don't you think he would do well here in TX ? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #23
Yes, I think that Joe will do well here Gothmog Jan 2019 #24
I believe he would absolutely, positively not beat Trump. enough Jan 2019 #16
Experience, knowledge and intelligence is what we need. bdamomma Jan 2019 #20
When I hear people say this, I think they must be a guy. I'm sure some women must be pnwmom Jan 2019 #28
ME, my sister, and my best friend - That's three ! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #32
So many in PA didn't like Hillary, unfortunately Sugarcoated Jan 2019 #47
Well, by the time 24 other states have voted, including Texas and CA, pnwmom Jan 2019 #62
In the general Joe will win it back for us Sugarcoated Jan 2019 #73
Not if he can't win the primaries. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #74
Good point. May end up being very split with the Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #76
It's way too early to know -- the race feels very different to me this time, pnwmom Jan 2019 #79
It's different to me because we have got to get rid of trump Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #88
I'm with you. It's life or death and we need the best candidate to beat Trump. pnwmom Jan 2019 #91
I have always liked Brown and wonder too Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #99
We gotta stop thinking it will be trump. If Mueller Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #100
You're absolutely right about that. And if Pence survives, I'm afraid pnwmom Jan 2019 #111
Well if trump doesn't survive..hard to believe his Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #124
If he does win the primary Sugarcoated Feb 2019 #128
Electoral college treestar Jan 2019 #120
There are swing states among the 24. But the electoral college doesn't apply pnwmom Jan 2019 #121
+1 Maven Jan 2019 #60
Joe's 76 right now and would be pushing 78 by November 2020 RT Atlanta Jan 2019 #30
Do you agree with other poster that Harris could win GA? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #33
In a fair fight (and that's a big IF) yes RT Atlanta Jan 2019 #46
Do you think Abrams will bring that sad state of affairs up on Tuesday? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #102
I sure hope so - she's filed a suit against the state RT Atlanta Jan 2019 #106
I'm tired of old white men ruining this country Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #34
Good point. I'm an oldster and agree it's time to pass the reins to the next generations. Doremus Jan 2019 #68
Old white men who are democrats treestar Jan 2019 #119
Is there anyone else who would...absolutely, positively beat Trump?..I can think of one: Stuart G Jan 2019 #35
Michelle is the only one who I can safely say would be a lock to beat that POS. Celerity Jan 2019 #118
He would win us back Sugarcoated Jan 2019 #38
Biden is about 4 years older than Trump. honest.abe Jan 2019 #44
Joe can hand it back Sugarcoated Jan 2019 #49
Until every candidates is forced to show a birth certificate mainstreetonce Jan 2019 #50
And Biden looks 15 years younger than Trump and is in better shape than most 50 year olds emulatorloo Jan 2019 #94
Good points. Yeah, Biden would probably do well and win.. honest.abe Jan 2019 #98
She is definitely on the top of my list! emulatorloo Jan 2019 #101
Kamala is on the top of my list. womanofthehills Jan 2019 #125
Don't Buy It colsohlibgal Jan 2019 #48
He can beat obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2019 #51
Biden/Harris has a nice ring to it! OhZone Jan 2019 #53
Agree! We must must win! Thekaspervote Jan 2019 #55
This is one reason I love him, breaking the Gish Gallop! OhZone Jan 2019 #56
As I recall Biden actually . . . peggysue2 Jan 2019 #67
Sorry, but this is the conventional white guy wisdom, and I don't buy it. Maven Jan 2019 #57
Only some of them are in a cult. Most of the voters there are not MAGAts. OhZone Jan 2019 #69
I agree underpants Jan 2019 #66
I agree SCantiGOP Jan 2019 #70
Biden is my 2nd choice If Bernie doesn't run. Joe941 Jan 2019 #71
I believe Biden will beat Trump. But to me, we must win. Whoever is our candidate must Stuart G Jan 2019 #75
I have to agree, although personally, I would prefer marybourg Jan 2019 #77
Joe would wipe the shit eating grin off his face tavernier Jan 2019 #78
only a woman can beat tRump. Kurt V. Jan 2019 #80
I just hope that whoever the person is, wins. Yes, I think Biden will win, but I do not care as Stuart G Jan 2019 #81
i love biden for his basic human decency. However, the way tRump plowed thru his primary against Kurt V. Jan 2019 #84
I think younger voters will not be inspired by Biden womanofthehills Jan 2019 #126
I think almost any Democrat will beat rump (and at least one putative independent). shanny Jan 2019 #82
There is a lady who in my opinion could "transform this country and the world" but Stuart G Jan 2019 #85
+1 Kurt V. Jan 2019 #93
Just ignore the midterm results and go for the old white guy obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #83
Geithner is the one! WeekiWater Jan 2019 #86
Are you referring to ...Timothy Geithner? Obamas Sec of Treasury? Stuart G Jan 2019 #90
Yes. Made the correction. NT WeekiWater Jan 2019 #112
I agree. Biden/Warren. Autumn Jan 2019 #89
That is an interesting combination. emulatorloo Jan 2019 #95
I would rather have Inslee/Warren * but IMO for foreign policy repair Biden is necessary. Autumn Jan 2019 #97
Anything can happen...it is so early in this upcoming election cycle....Another example: Stuart G Jan 2019 #92
I'm not so convinced myself. Crunchy Frog Jan 2019 #103
He's the worst President in history; how could ANY of our candidates lose to him? MadDAsHell Jan 2019 #105
Joe Biden would be a lock for a BIG WIN. democratisphere Jan 2019 #107
He would take tRump behind the shed. Joe941 Jan 2019 #108
Joe Biden for me.. Beto or Klobuchar LakeArenal Jan 2019 #110
So an all-white ticket? Great! pnwmom Jan 2019 #115
Your response makes no sense. LakeArenal Jan 2019 #122
No way, dude! We must nominate a gay, disabled, minority trans wiccan! McCamy Taylor Jan 2019 #123
We wouldn't ordinarily need Joe Biden. Nor would he perhaps ordinarily be elected. WheelWalker Feb 2019 #127
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