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In reply to the discussion: There is one person I believe would, absolutely, positively, beat Trump - Joe Biden. [View all]treestar
(82,383 posts)117. Obama went gray
Due to progression from age 47 to age 55. That happens no matter what stress you have. Obama was not stressed by the presidency. He is the ultimate of aplomb. Genetics too. I had a lot of grey before 40 and was never president. It was going to happen whether I felt stress or not.
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There is one person I believe would, absolutely, positively, beat Trump - Joe Biden. [View all]
Stuart G
Jan 2019
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There are many good democrats who may run, but IMO Biden is too old. I wouldn't be against him
in2herbs
Jan 2019
#1
+ And what also becomes more important to me is someone who thinks big
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#5
That is precisely why he is good. Blend age/wisdom with youthful, energetic VP
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#3
That is what quite a few ageist DUers said about Nancy Pelosi. Age should not be determinative
hlthe2b
Jan 2019
#4
Nor should "genderists" and "minorityists" - Best person first - what they look like,
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#7
You may think Biden is too .."old"..Running against Trump, I believe that age would
Stuart G
Jan 2019
#13
The next president is going to have her work cut out for her. She will need help. Look how Obama
in2herbs
Jan 2019
#37
Great person, of course. Doubtful she could turn anything from purple
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#8
I think the near win by Abrams in GA bodes well for a progressive AA candidate
oberliner
Jan 2019
#43
Except both Abrams and Gillum both lost in states they are from to candidates that cheated
standingtall
Jan 2019
#65
Yes. Think it's different when you come from a red state perspective. And you just
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#25
Yes, it still hurts that we came so close with Beto - but saw it coming - just looking
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#40
Florida was very close in 2016 and Andrew Gillum almost won the state in 2018
oberliner
Jan 2019
#45
Sexism would do her in. I love her but see her as risky.Look at what they're doing to her already
Dream Girl
Jan 2019
#52
I agree - but it's my red state perspective. I don't want to be left out. I want
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#109
Her strong talk against the NRA and calling for gun restrictions will hurt her there
Amishman
Jan 2019
#72
Exactly. I like that "high risk" (great person but high risk). Of course we don't
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#27
Why won't it happen? Biden/Beto? it's perfect - especially if they run together and
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#29
I really liked Beto until the dental appointment. We have tremendous issues and watching
33taw
Jan 2019
#39
I thought the same. Heck, people got upset about Howard Dean yelling in Iowa, but O'Rourke's dental
Hoyt
Jan 2019
#87
So I guess you were fine with Biden taking $200K to give a speech to help Fred Upton,
pnwmom
Jan 2019
#31
No, I'm not. It was during his campaign, and Biden knew it would help him. Upton even made
pnwmom
Jan 2019
#61
You're the one who's naive if you think someone as experienced as Biden didn't know
pnwmom
Jan 2019
#114
That's what I think too. Let the fine progressive people run committees and
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#17
Sounds like chump change baggage compared to Trump. Crime rates were very
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#21
+1 to all this. Let's also not forget his role in making student loans impossible to discharge
Maven
Jan 2019
#63
Would stick my neck out and say Texas is prime to turn blue - with Joe running. Add
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#12
When I hear people say this, I think they must be a guy. I'm sure some women must be
pnwmom
Jan 2019
#28
Do you think Abrams will bring that sad state of affairs up on Tuesday?
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2019
#102
Good point. I'm an oldster and agree it's time to pass the reins to the next generations.
Doremus
Jan 2019
#68
Is there anyone else who would...absolutely, positively beat Trump?..I can think of one:
Stuart G
Jan 2019
#35
Michelle is the only one who I can safely say would be a lock to beat that POS.
Celerity
Jan 2019
#118
And Biden looks 15 years younger than Trump and is in better shape than most 50 year olds
emulatorloo
Jan 2019
#94
I believe Biden will beat Trump. But to me, we must win. Whoever is our candidate must
Stuart G
Jan 2019
#75
I just hope that whoever the person is, wins. Yes, I think Biden will win, but I do not care as
Stuart G
Jan 2019
#81
i love biden for his basic human decency. However, the way tRump plowed thru his primary against
Kurt V.
Jan 2019
#84
I think almost any Democrat will beat rump (and at least one putative independent).
shanny
Jan 2019
#82
There is a lady who in my opinion could "transform this country and the world" but
Stuart G
Jan 2019
#85
I would rather have Inslee/Warren * but IMO for foreign policy repair Biden is necessary.
Autumn
Jan 2019
#97
Anything can happen...it is so early in this upcoming election cycle....Another example:
Stuart G
Jan 2019
#92
He's the worst President in history; how could ANY of our candidates lose to him?
MadDAsHell
Jan 2019
#105
We wouldn't ordinarily need Joe Biden. Nor would he perhaps ordinarily be elected.
WheelWalker
Feb 2019
#127