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PatrickforO

(14,566 posts)
46. My wife and I spent some time talking about Ralph Northam this morning.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 03:53 PM
Feb 2019

We are both white, in that late fifties-early sixties age band.

I've been reading a lot of posts by African Americans that are helping me understand the feelings around this photo, chosen by Northam for insertion into his college yearbook.

I think you're right, here Mineral. I have no business sticking up for Northam because he posed for that picture in the first place, chose it to be in his yearbook, then just forgot about it. He did not bring it up, confess to it, apologize for it until he was caught. It is possible for me to understand the feeling of betrayal that members of the black community now feel for this guy.

They thought he was truly on the side of racial and social justice, and they thought they were electing someone who would fight for the rights of all people in VA, and for an even playing field, voter rights and all the rest. Then...this came out.

I guess for me it would be like being married to someone, loving them, then finding out that in their younger days they did something horrible that is profoundly offensive. Will it ever be the same? No. Can it be saved? A marriage, maybe. But years to build back that trust. For a governor? Maybe not.

I just asked a question on another thread about why so many on here dislike Tulsi Gabbard so much, and maybe I'm seeing that, too.

You know, when I was a kid, I naively believed that we were the good guys - that was before I really thought about our genocide against Native Americans and our enslavement and subsequent entrenched racism. Our foreign policy - the 'dirty war.' Vietnam. We lost our fucking heroes, Mineral. We did.

But, that is no excuse not to TRY to actually BE the good people now. No excuse not to TRY and make this country a real light on the hill, where people can come and find social, economic and environmental justice and opportunity to get ahead with hard work.

So, yeah, we've got to come to terms with the bad in order to embrace the good without soiling everything we touch. And our people do need to follow a higher standard.

A picture 35 years old does not make one a racist today Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #1
You're not getting it. MineralMan Feb 2019 #2
If they have a problem with it, they can vote him out next election. Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #3
Governors in Virginia can serve only one term in office. MineralMan Feb 2019 #4
Look back in your past and be totally honest Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #7
I am not running for any election. MineralMan Feb 2019 #8
So, you're not willing to do the heavy lifting and run for office Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #10
I have never been even tempted to run for office. MineralMan Feb 2019 #13
Then if you're not willing to do so, maybe appreciate that others are Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #16
That's not how it works, you see. MineralMan Feb 2019 #21
Hold your candidates to the standards you have Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #26
I will vote as I choose. So should you. MineralMan Feb 2019 #28
He's killing us with a vital constituency DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #18
No one is asking you to die on it Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #19
One politician who can easily be replaced for 27% of our presidential votes. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #20
You really think that 27% would vote for Trump or sit it out Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #23
If he's not gone by Monday every Democratic elected official will be calling for his ouster DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #25
But, you see, Northam is not one or "our own." MineralMan Feb 2019 #22
I remember DU being quite happy when he won Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #24
Offensive or stupid would have been if he got dressed up as a bowl of poop. pnwmom Feb 2019 #37
The VA Governor can only serve one consecutive term. Cattledog Feb 2019 #32
I'll forgive him... ADX Feb 2019 #5
+10 MineralMan Feb 2019 #6
Trying to hide it would though, he should've let everyone know about it uponit7771 Feb 2019 #9
That I do agree with Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #12
NAACP President - Northam should've disclosed past to everyone and not had a gotcha moment. The sin uponit7771 Feb 2019 #14
Maybe so Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #17
I totally agree . . . . where is brilliant, powerful Al Franken? pdsimdars Feb 2019 #42
Yet we accept that Democratic politicians have "evolved" dflprincess Feb 2019 #11
Democratic pols have admitted their attitudes though, Northam did NOT or at least come out with uponit7771 Feb 2019 #15
If Northam had admitted to the behavior before ever running for office, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #27
Yes, exactly. And black voters feel betrayed. MineralMan Feb 2019 #30
My parents response was always Heartstrings Feb 2019 #29
The problem is, I might have answered "Yes." MineralMan Feb 2019 #31
My parents were both teachers... Heartstrings Feb 2019 #33
I also grew up in a small town. MineralMan Feb 2019 #35
Learning the "consequences of your behavior" Heartstrings Feb 2019 #38
About the Northam thing... Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2019 #34
Of course they do. When you run for election, though, MineralMan Feb 2019 #36
For me, Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2019 #39
She never asked "If Bobby jumped off a bridge, would you jump off a bridge too" ? eppur_se_muova Feb 2019 #40
You are absolutely right on this. BarbD Feb 2019 #41
I have questions: Lotus54 Feb 2019 #43
Feeding Frenzy is WRONG! pdsimdars Feb 2019 #44
Why don't you let me know all the good things he has done. MineralMan Feb 2019 #45
My wife and I spent some time talking about Ralph Northam this morning. PatrickforO Feb 2019 #46
Prince Harry DallasNE Feb 2019 #47
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