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Response to manor321 (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:08 PM

16. You are correct in part.

The tenth amendment concludes "... are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people." That's how the constitution under which we live and die tell us where the powers lie that are not delegated to the United States. I merely quoted the constitution. Believe me I did not write it.

But regardless of whether the states or the people have the right to shut down the government, that's not of importance. I think the constitution was ordained by the people acting as agents for their respective states. I tried to explain that in an answer earlier. What is important is that I learned already in high school in American Government that our government is a government given specific powers. The 10th Amendment tells us unless there is a specific power delegated to any of the three branches, the government just does not have that power.

Congress can repeal a law or pass a bill to change a law. But as long as a law exists that needs to executed (not meaning beheaded), the president has a sworn obligation to do so. And Congress has a sworn obligation to assist him by providing necessary funds. This applies to established routine operations.
The 9th Amendment seems to forbid the U.S. government to cause havoc by shutting down any of its lawfully established operations. If the 9th does not say that, what does it say? That's how I see it and that is why I posted my thoughts.

However, I am looking forward to reading a well reasoned support that I am wrong.

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