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In reply to the discussion: Israel is not a race or a religion [View all]Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)85. The Jewish people are not indigenous to what is now Israel.
The Canaanites or Phoenicians, either name were the first people in the region, they were the indigenous people of the region. The Jewish people came after them while the Phoenicians were still there. The Phoenicians had a very rich history. Ceding land, look at a map of 1948 and one of 2019. The Jews call it a war of genocide, the Muslims call it trying to keep from losing their land. It was the Jews that liked to bomb places like the King David Hotel in 1946, before there was an Israel. Do you believe that the Israelis should keep building settlements on Arab land? Kind of like White people kept building on indigenous peoples' land.
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Claiming lobbyist groups putting money into congresses pockets is now anti Semitic tropes
lancelyons
Feb 2019
#103
If you trashed Bibi and the entire reason Israel is in place after 1948 that is not antisemitism.
lancelyons
Feb 2019
#34
I can certainly talk about what Israel has done bad without being anti semitic.
lancelyons
Feb 2019
#63
I don't believe that ANY country has a "right to exist", including my own.
Crunchy Frog
Feb 2019
#111
Do you have a link? For whatever reason, the text is showing as characters rather than letters. N/T
lapucelle
Feb 2019
#28
I found it and was able to read the entire piece for additional context. Thanks. N/T
lapucelle
Feb 2019
#42
She spoke specifically about a political action committee, not a religion or ethnicity
Dennis Donovan
Feb 2019
#19
Yes they are because they Lobby for pro Israel policy. Hard not to have associations there.
lancelyons
Feb 2019
#35
Who are you to suggest that I'm taking things "at face value" and have not dug deeply enough?
Nonhlanhla
Feb 2019
#106
It is possible to criticize Israel without invoking antediluvian anti-semitic tropes, yes?
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#41
They don't say "all", they simply say it individually about every single example
Recursion
Feb 2019
#98
AIPAC's mission is to attribute all criticism of Israel to anti-semitism?
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#100
Similarly, if you disagree with Fat Donnie's policies, it does not make you a Trump-hater,
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
Feb 2019
#48
True. But at the same time, the criticism must use a scalpel, not a kitchen knife.
Honeycombe8
Feb 2019
#49
Europeans came to the "New World" and took the land from the indigenous people.
Cold War Spook
Feb 2019
#66