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Cold War Spook

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21. I can not see a reasonable solution.

Wed Feb 13, 2019, 03:56 PM

Feb 2019

The Palestinians will not agree to any solution that does not contain their right to have their capital in Jerusalem. The Israelis will not agree to any solution that allows the Palestinians to have their capital in Jerusalem. I does not matter if you believe they should or should not.

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Yep. What's ridiculous is we knowingly elect a proud anti-Semite, then are shocked... MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #1

Is any criticism of the actions of the Israeli Government automatically evidence of anti-semitism? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #2

the WB is not part of Israel Mosby Feb 2019 #8

I asked 2 questions. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #26

So it's a different state, then? (nt) Recursion Feb 2019 #77

Sure MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #25

Apartheid is an Afrikaans word. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #29

So it's the wall you are calling "apartheid"? MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #31

I am speaking of the concept, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #34

Unless the goal is the one state solution MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #40

The Egyptian border wall is an actual wall between 2 countries. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #41

OK, so we are back to the one state solution. MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #46

What I previously said: guillaumeb Feb 2019 #51

No, you said its a wall not on a national border MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #53

The walls are built on territory that Israel controls. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #56

Not sure what you mean MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #58

I said nothing of the sort. If anyone is playing word games..... guillaumeb Feb 2019 #60

Fair enough MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #63

2 states. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #65

Sounds great MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #66

Compromise takes 2 sides. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #70

If you like broad brushes shanny Feb 2019 #3

🍿 underpants Feb 2019 #4

why would the hosts lock it? Mosby Feb 2019 #17

If I believe Settlements in Violation of UN Resolutions are Wrong? bitterross Feb 2019 #5

No. marylandblue Feb 2019 #9

No Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #18

Depends on why you hold that opinion MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #27

Are you saying that these settlements are not being placed on Palestinian land? Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #52

The question belies a false assumption MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #57

I've never heard the Balfour Declaration explained quite that way before. bitterross Feb 2019 #102

The ones built on Occupied Territory Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #107

There are plenty of legal experts who say different Mosby Feb 2019 #109

Amona for one. Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #120

Different issues MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #122

East Jerusalem. Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #125

This sounds a whole lot like.... Adrahil Feb 2019 #123

Enlighten me about facts bitterross Feb 2019 #86

Which settlement MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #88

I didn't say they're illegal. The UN and others say they are. bitterross Feb 2019 #95

See my post below MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #96

Actually, Israel and Jordan both are parties to the 4th Geneva Convention. bitterross Feb 2019 #100

Um, maybe MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #113

You're not addressing the larger settlements issue bitterross Feb 2019 #114

No, I addressed the issue squarely MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #116

How About East Jerusalem and the West Bank? bitterross Feb 2019 #119

With the US abstaining MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #121

I'll even given an example to help MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #93

No. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #62

The dogged campaign to marginalize criticism of Israel continues Bok_Tukalo Feb 2019 #6

! KG Feb 2019 #22

+2 Celerity Feb 2019 #106

Your takeaway is lazy thinking. Mosby Feb 2019 #108

What if you're sick of the entire issue? BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #7

I gave up a long time ago. marylandblue Feb 2019 #13

I can not see a reasonable solution. Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #21

Well, kind of MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #43

pfffft...you can do better. ret5hd Feb 2019 #10

OK, how about this one? Mosby Feb 2019 #117

These I get zipplewrath Feb 2019 #11

This discussion belongs in the I/P forum. yardwork Feb 2019 #12

+1000 recs - there was a time when it was the RULE 7wo7rees Feb 2019 #87

It really does Bettie Feb 2019 #126

It seems like any criticism of Israel or their government is considered antisemite. LiberalFighter Feb 2019 #14

I agree. It is not the country or it's people. It is the policies being pushed in their names. Blue_true Feb 2019 #82

Saying that AIPAC makes political donations to influence policy on Israel... jberryhill Feb 2019 #15

That is what lobbying groups do. PHARMA, the Saudi lobby, or the over 11000 registered lobbying still_one Feb 2019 #32

No, that is not what AIPAC does jberryhill Feb 2019 #33

Right, PHRMA and the Saudi lobby do not seek to influence politics..... BS still_one Feb 2019 #36

Who is "Jerry"? jberryhill Feb 2019 #38

Stupid auto correct on my phone. Sorry jberry, thanks still_one Feb 2019 #42

Check your sarcasm meter. It is malfunctioning. nt tblue37 Feb 2019 #39

Clearly. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #35

It is technically true that neither AIPAC nor the NRA make donations Recursion Feb 2019 #78

Since this question was asked but not answered earlier, I'll ask it again... ADX Feb 2019 #16

of course you can criticize israel Mosby Feb 2019 #19

The usual answer is "No, but ..." Bok_Tukalo Feb 2019 #23

+1 hopeforchange2008 Feb 2019 #44

I lulz'd KG Feb 2019 #20

Me too. Crunchy Frog Feb 2019 #55

I call bullshit on a couple of those Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #24

and if the only lobbying group you have a problem with is AIPAC, but conveniently ignore the Saudi still_one Feb 2019 #28

Since you are familiar with these various national lobbies jberryhill Feb 2019 #37

Ahhh, the poor innocent Saudis who don't use their money for political purposes................... still_one Feb 2019 #97

Who characterized the Saudis as either "poor" or "innocent"? jberryhill Feb 2019 #99

I expected such a response. None of it was for political campaigns, right, you go with that still_one Feb 2019 #105

Thank you! Agreed on all counts! tritsofme Feb 2019 #30

Not Foxworthy's best material lame54 Feb 2019 #45

I'll be here all day Mosby Feb 2019 #49

Dude..... 912gdm Feb 2019 #50

You know what else probably makes you an anti-Semite? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2019 #47

My thoughts exactly. Chemisse Feb 2019 #81

I don't like many things the U.S. does. Does that make me demosincebirth Feb 2019 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #54

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. backscatter712 Feb 2019 #59

most of what you wrote isn't accurate. Mosby Feb 2019 #68

Explain that to the Palestinians who lived there and were forced off at gunpoint. backscatter712 Feb 2019 #69

israelis will say the same thing about the mizrahi Mosby Feb 2019 #72

Do two wrongs make a right? shanny Feb 2019 #83

+1 Kurt V. Feb 2019 #90

the arabs started a war and lost Mosby Feb 2019 #98

"There is no illegal occupation". LOL. DanTex Feb 2019 #73

oslo accords - interim agreement Mosby Feb 2019 #75

Well said. Thank you. shanny Feb 2019 #84

I liked Israel better when it was governed by the center left , just like my own country. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #61

Seconded. NT Adrahil Feb 2019 #124

Quite obvious many don't get it. Behind the Aegis Feb 2019 #64

damn right. 912gdm Feb 2019 #67

This does zero for winning friends and influencing people. It's so OnDoutside Feb 2019 #71

I guess that makes Jimmy Carter an antisemite, as well as Amnesty International, and pretty much DanTex Feb 2019 #74

Well said. eom guillaumeb Feb 2019 #76

+1 treestar Feb 2019 #80

this is what President Carter said: Mosby Feb 2019 #103

LOL. And what did he say about the illegally occupied territories? DanTex Feb 2019 #112

+1 happybird Feb 2019 #104

A lot of those are not quite fair treestar Feb 2019 #79

i am firmly anti-netanfuckyou & settlements. pro 2 states. pansypoo53219 Feb 2019 #85

"Hasbara: Why does the world fail to understand us?" Crunchy Frog Feb 2019 #89

But if you invite Benjiman NitwitYahoo to speak in Congress to insult Obama jpak Feb 2019 #91

I am really curious. 912gdm Feb 2019 #92

as with all prejudice, antisemitism is simple. you don't like jews bc they're jews. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #94

Well that's utterly human and humane BeyondGeography Feb 2019 #118

we will just have to disagree on this one rampartc Feb 2019 #101

So any criticism of Israel's policies Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #110

you should read this whole piece Mosby Feb 2019 #115

You forgot "If you feel the need to post a "handy guide"!" whistler162 Feb 2019 #111

+100000 Pachamama Feb 2019 #127