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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
5. We don't need any more unwanted children. We have enough of those already.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 04:26 PM
Feb 2019

That is my bottom line on free, available safe contraception. And when necessary, abortion. Let's get clear about a few facts.

1. The majority of women, who seek abortions, are already mothers. They simply cannot handle more kids for a vast number of reasons. Economic, health, emotional stress. Single mothers already holding down 1 or 2 jobs with no support from the fathers. Mothers who cannot afford more child care or take off time for work. Mothers in an already rocky marriage. Mothers with neglected children. Mothers who know that another baby will bring post partum depression. Mothers without extended family support.

2. No amount of laws will prevent women from aborting babies. Women with money will go on "vacation," where they can get an abortion no problem. Women without money will throw themselves down the stairs, out of windows, drink bleach, or draino, or god-knows-what. Women will visit Aunt Hatpin Hattie and Cousin Coathanger Cathy. Maybe end up dead, leaving their other children motherless.

3. Our planet is simply over-populated with humans. We are destroying our environment. Families with just 1 or 2 children do much better, live better lifestyles than families with 5 or 6 or more kids. Those 1 or 2 kids have a better chance to go to school, be well-fed, and well cared for.

Need I say more?

Women are human beings. Embryos and fetuses are not. JenniferJuniper Feb 2019 #1
The way I see it. LiberalFighter Feb 2019 #13
I wouldn't say you're really human until about a year old. Till then it's open season. nt MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #15
The question as to whether a fetus is a human being is at the center of the abortion debate Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2019 #17
It's well settled at the societal level. JenniferJuniper Feb 2019 #18
No, it is not settled. Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2019 #23
Fetuses aren't sentient beings, water is not dry, bears don't pee in Porta potties uponit7771 Feb 2019 #24
Exactly. JenniferJuniper Feb 2019 #28
+1, most of RussiaPublican ideals of reality are pulled out of their butts uponit7771 Feb 2019 #30
Your OPINION is that a fetus is not a human being. Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2019 #31
It's not MY opinion JenniferJuniper Feb 2019 #33
It is your opinion. What evidence do you have to back it up? None. Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2019 #35
Fair and balanced? JenniferJuniper Feb 2019 #36
Jennifer, what you are saying is: Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2019 #38
I have always said that a fetus is an secondwind Feb 2019 #29
If only the forced birther crowd would bend to logic and rationality... Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #2
Yeah they would be like "too long didn't read" Mystery sage Feb 2019 #7
One more thing about adoption. MH1 Feb 2019 #3
That's no longer possible Stargazer09 Feb 2019 #26
Hell yes. Well reasoned and said. happybird Feb 2019 #4
We don't need any more unwanted children. We have enough of those already. vlyons Feb 2019 #5
Pro-life, or pro-fetus? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #6
To the ones who insist abortion is immoral tell them that God, (or insert whoever or whatever here) Maraya1969 Feb 2019 #8
My take on the god thing... LiberalFighter Feb 2019 #14
And the Bible does not consider a fetus to be "alive" TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #16
There is even a potion priests give to women to cause an abortion. Numbers 5 LiberalFighter Feb 2019 #19
After I watched this video I knew that life begins with breath. It is a little troubling but if you Maraya1969 Feb 2019 #20
They don't care about morality supporting Trump's kid knappings uponit7771 Feb 2019 #25
I don't know a single woman who's had an abortion who regretted it. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2019 #9
The closest I can think of is someone who regretted needing it, not the procedure itself. xmas74 Feb 2019 #11
Very sad story. :( So sorry for what she went through! This again highlights how vital CHOICE is. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2019 #12
I know one Bettie Feb 2019 #21
To quote my late grandmother... she sounds like a pip! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2019 #22
Way to cloud the issue with logic and compassion mjvpi Feb 2019 #10
Honestly Stargazer09 Feb 2019 #27
Right to life has nothing to do with life. KentuckyWoman Feb 2019 #32
K&R...Thanks Bright! spanone Feb 2019 #34
And the religious right wants to ban contraceptives incl. the pill, pre-marital sex, and abortion. Oneironaut Feb 2019 #37
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