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xmas74

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51. They also looked at it from an employment angle.

Wed Feb 13, 2019, 06:40 PM

Feb 2019

Most of the jobs are in KC and St Louis, leaving a number of rural areas with low paying jobs. This could allow for those who live on one side of the state to take a job on the other side of the state and still not be forced to move, uprooting family and community.

An example would be I live in Johnson County, MO. With a hyperloop I could accept a job in the St Louis area and only have to worry about commuting to Kansas City to catch the loop. KC can be reached easily under an hour while St Louis is over 3 hours-too far for a commute. It wouldn't help everyone but within an hour of the hubs it could be helpful. It could also prove helpful for medical care and even for education.

It also opens up easier branches. St Louis could open up branches leading to Chicago, Nashville, etc. Kansas City could open up to Denver, OKC, even into Texas. That is one of the biggest selling points I've heard about locating a hyperloop here-how easy it would be to open up shoots off of those cities compared to most.

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Why the United States will never have high-speed rail [View all] IronLionZion Feb 2019 OP

I think it's the transportation lobby efforts.. mitch96 Feb 2019 #1

Short flights make no sense, like Miami to Orlando to Tampa IronLionZion Feb 2019 #3

High-speed rail, Miami to Orlando to Tampa would be expensive to build, JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2019 #44

Florida already has High-speed rails. And it's doing quite well and has merged with Virgin Cetacea Feb 2019 #71

I live between Miami and Palm Beach.... mitch96 Feb 2019 #99

The Cocoa Beach to Orlando tracks will be new and faster. Not Maglev though Cetacea Feb 2019 #105

"Cocoa Beach to Orlando tracks will be new and faster" mitch96 Feb 2019 #106

I'm sure people said the same thing about the Federal Interstate Highway System Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #100

Yes agreed to all you stated. mitch96 Feb 2019 #101

"Vandals" JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2019 #107

How many HSR derailments have we heard about? mitch96 Feb 2019 #108

I worked for 17 years as a freight brakeman / conductor MicaelS Feb 2019 #97

Part of it is the distances involved, along with the relatively high cost of MineralMan Feb 2019 #2

HSR is just as fast. It's 1.5 hrs to fly from LA to SF, plus 1 hr in the airport for security. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #7

Cheap? dumbcat Feb 2019 #12

Plus you'd still need to check in an go through security to get on the train. meadowlander Feb 2019 #15

Why? A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #18

Exactly. I pity the fool gldstwmn Feb 2019 #87

Hijacking on trains is not the issue: bombs are frazzled Feb 2019 #98

Oh come on, check in at trains is nothing like going through security at SFO or LAX. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #19

We have a commuter train that comes in from St Louis xmas74 Feb 2019 #41

So far there's no security nonsense on trains. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #55

I took the EuroStar from London to Brussels melm00se Feb 2019 #67

Is $86 SF-LA cheap enough for you, dumbcat? SunSeeker Feb 2019 #21

Thanks! That sounds reasonable dumbcat Feb 2019 #37

Just for what it is worth, pangaia Feb 2019 #102

" it will depend on the actual speed of the train. " mitch96 Feb 2019 #39

TSA is the Transportation Safety Administation. MineralMan Feb 2019 #53

I go from NJ to DC from time to time crazycatlady Feb 2019 #61

Yes! I never fly if the drive is four hours or less. MineralMan Feb 2019 #62

I wouldn't even think of flying crazycatlady Feb 2019 #64

Yes, that can be a day trip. MineralMan Feb 2019 #65

Yeah this event is 9-6 crazycatlady Feb 2019 #68

DC to New York is the longest conceivable Amtrak trip I can handle. theboss Feb 2019 #79

Because whole countries can fit in many of our states.. X_Digger Feb 2019 #4

High speed rail doesn't need oil. hunter Feb 2019 #5

They are spending millions in Fresno building an elevated portion of the corridor A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #6

I think a huge part of it is we can't trust giant corporations to build it. Initech Feb 2019 #8

Perhaps HSR could be built by a dedicated WPA type federal or state agency? PufPuf23 Feb 2019 #11

Unrec. The article basically says we can't build any major infrastructure projects. Bullshit. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #9

Cost and legal challenges are defeating Trump's wall IronLionZion Feb 2019 #13

People don't want Trump's wall. That's what's defeating the wall right now. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #14

I want high speed rail, lots of others don't IronLionZion Feb 2019 #16

No, the rural section of CA's HSR (Merced to Bakersfield) is exactly what IS going forward. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #17

How many people would travel from Merced to Bakersfield IronLionZion Feb 2019 #20

Well of course. That is why they should complete the full length of it, LA to SF. nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #22

Polls consistently show a majority in favor of HSR in TX. LanternWaste Feb 2019 #82

Are Texans willing to pay for it and give up their land to build it? IronLionZion Feb 2019 #83

+10000 Cetacea Feb 2019 #72

It would cost many years and untold billions to build. We should do it anyway. DFW Feb 2019 #10

But unlike the wall, this will pay for itself and prove to be useful! Initech Feb 2019 #28

It won't pay for itself for decades, we shouldn't fool ourselves. DFW Feb 2019 #31

OK yeah maybe it won't pay for itself. Initech Feb 2019 #32

No argument there. DFW Feb 2019 #36

Have you ever traveled by Amtrak through Pennsylvania? theboss Feb 2019 #45

I have only traveled through PA by car and air DFW Feb 2019 #52

The oligarchs don't need it. moondust Feb 2019 #23

The oligarchs would drive Mercedes? Initech Feb 2019 #34

Rolls indeed. moondust Feb 2019 #38

"Um, what's a "Koenigsegg"?" Swedish Supercar maker: EX500rider Feb 2019 #56

My husband drove Bart (subway in SF) marlakay Feb 2019 #24

This is also the reason for the 8 lane highways and the horrendous traffic jams west of NYC DFW Feb 2019 #26

My husband has a old tape marlakay Feb 2019 #30

Standard Oil Of California DFW Feb 2019 #35

One could make the argument General Motors and Firestone were equally culpable Brother Buzz Feb 2019 #42

There is a pretty good network in northeastern NJ now NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #75

Yes, but there are lots of areas still without coverage DFW Feb 2019 #81

No, they didn't brooklynite Feb 2019 #27

Part of that plays into the idea that public transportation can bring the public to you. theboss Feb 2019 #46

Moses didn't use infrastructure to force segregation... brooklynite Feb 2019 #49

He wasn't as specific as Daley who literally used highways as barricades. theboss Feb 2019 #60

The Shanghai maglev is a showpiece item that has little practical value brooklynite Feb 2019 #25

Republicans don't want to invest in any public services vlyons Feb 2019 #29

Is that really the issue in California? theboss Feb 2019 #48

It's not, excessive regulations in California killed the high speed railway project ansible Feb 2019 #57

Exactly. mainer Feb 2019 #58

Widespread use of eminent domain proceedings has taken its toll ripcord Feb 2019 #33

Well there's always this miyazaki Feb 2019 #40

TRAINZ is a better product brooklynite Feb 2019 #50

There has been talk of running an experimental hyperloop between St Louis and KC xmas74 Feb 2019 #43

This makes the most sense logistically in the MidWest theboss Feb 2019 #47

They also looked at it from an employment angle. xmas74 Feb 2019 #51

Lol the issue is simple, not enough population density to support tens of billions in investment grantcart Feb 2019 #54

I guess the issue with the East Coast is who exactly are you seeking to serve? theboss Feb 2019 #59

high speed doesn't stop every few miles IronLionZion Feb 2019 #70

I agree completely. theboss Feb 2019 #73

The rail lines in Connecticut to Grand Central in NYC are slower now NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #76

Meanwhile, in China Baclava Feb 2019 #63

China's massive population size is unbelievable IronLionZion Feb 2019 #69

Funny how something that makes sense in China doesn't make sense in California. grantcart Feb 2019 #74

You're comparing cities to a state NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #80

Sigh grantcart Feb 2019 #89

train stations NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #95

Lol typically? Really? Except none of what you refer to applies to SoCal where the airports are base grantcart Feb 2019 #103

China doesn't have to worry about private property rights nor environmental impact theboss Feb 2019 #78

Driving time between Los Angeles and San Francisco is about 6 hours. MineralMan Feb 2019 #66

When was the last time you made it from downtown LA to downtown SF in 6 hours? SunSeeker Feb 2019 #84

When was the last time you made it from downtown LA to Irvine in 6 hours? LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #88

What are you talking about? SunSeeker Feb 2019 #90

Joking. I've been in LA traffic. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #91

LOL. Yeah, LA traffic is bad, but not THAT bad. nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #92

It took us 2 hours and 45 minutes to get from the La Brea Tar Pits to Anaheim one Friday evening LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #94

People have no choice. It's a terrible situation with no alternatives for most folks. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #96

It all depends on time of day, really. MineralMan Feb 2019 #93

Republicans did everything to run up cost and delay which also ran up cost. We are the 5th onecaliberal Feb 2019 #77

Stopping the project at Bakersfield is just stupid. Xolodno Feb 2019 #85

We need to figure it out. gldstwmn Feb 2019 #86

Perhaps Starting Small With a Short Distance Might Get the Ball Rolling dlk Feb 2019 #104