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mainer

(12,013 posts)
58. Exactly.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 08:10 PM
Feb 2019

We are not a dictatorship. And high speed rail requires the unAmerican exercise of eminent domain.

I think it's the transportation lobby efforts.. mitch96 Feb 2019 #1
Short flights make no sense, like Miami to Orlando to Tampa IronLionZion Feb 2019 #3
High-speed rail, Miami to Orlando to Tampa would be expensive to build, JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2019 #44
Florida already has High-speed rails. And it's doing quite well and has merged with Virgin Cetacea Feb 2019 #71
I live between Miami and Palm Beach.... mitch96 Feb 2019 #99
The Cocoa Beach to Orlando tracks will be new and faster. Not Maglev though Cetacea Feb 2019 #105
"Cocoa Beach to Orlando tracks will be new and faster" mitch96 Feb 2019 #106
I'm sure people said the same thing about the Federal Interstate Highway System Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #100
Yes agreed to all you stated. mitch96 Feb 2019 #101
"Vandals" JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2019 #107
How many HSR derailments have we heard about? mitch96 Feb 2019 #108
I worked for 17 years as a freight brakeman / conductor MicaelS Feb 2019 #97
Part of it is the distances involved, along with the relatively high cost of MineralMan Feb 2019 #2
HSR is just as fast. It's 1.5 hrs to fly from LA to SF, plus 1 hr in the airport for security. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #7
Cheap? dumbcat Feb 2019 #12
Plus you'd still need to check in an go through security to get on the train. meadowlander Feb 2019 #15
Why? A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #18
Exactly. I pity the fool gldstwmn Feb 2019 #87
Hijacking on trains is not the issue: bombs are frazzled Feb 2019 #98
Oh come on, check in at trains is nothing like going through security at SFO or LAX. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #19
We have a commuter train that comes in from St Louis xmas74 Feb 2019 #41
So far there's no security nonsense on trains. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #55
I took the EuroStar from London to Brussels melm00se Feb 2019 #67
Is $86 SF-LA cheap enough for you, dumbcat? SunSeeker Feb 2019 #21
Thanks! That sounds reasonable dumbcat Feb 2019 #37
Just for what it is worth, pangaia Feb 2019 #102
" it will depend on the actual speed of the train. " mitch96 Feb 2019 #39
TSA is the Transportation Safety Administation. MineralMan Feb 2019 #53
I go from NJ to DC from time to time crazycatlady Feb 2019 #61
Yes! I never fly if the drive is four hours or less. MineralMan Feb 2019 #62
I wouldn't even think of flying crazycatlady Feb 2019 #64
Yes, that can be a day trip. MineralMan Feb 2019 #65
Yeah this event is 9-6 crazycatlady Feb 2019 #68
DC to New York is the longest conceivable Amtrak trip I can handle. theboss Feb 2019 #79
Because whole countries can fit in many of our states.. X_Digger Feb 2019 #4
High speed rail doesn't need oil. hunter Feb 2019 #5
They are spending millions in Fresno building an elevated portion of the corridor A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #6
I think a huge part of it is we can't trust giant corporations to build it. Initech Feb 2019 #8
Perhaps HSR could be built by a dedicated WPA type federal or state agency? PufPuf23 Feb 2019 #11
Unrec. The article basically says we can't build any major infrastructure projects. Bullshit. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #9
Cost and legal challenges are defeating Trump's wall IronLionZion Feb 2019 #13
People don't want Trump's wall. That's what's defeating the wall right now. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #14
I want high speed rail, lots of others don't IronLionZion Feb 2019 #16
No, the rural section of CA's HSR (Merced to Bakersfield) is exactly what IS going forward. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #17
How many people would travel from Merced to Bakersfield IronLionZion Feb 2019 #20
Well of course. That is why they should complete the full length of it, LA to SF. nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #22
Polls consistently show a majority in favor of HSR in TX. LanternWaste Feb 2019 #82
Are Texans willing to pay for it and give up their land to build it? IronLionZion Feb 2019 #83
+10000 Cetacea Feb 2019 #72
It would cost many years and untold billions to build. We should do it anyway. DFW Feb 2019 #10
But unlike the wall, this will pay for itself and prove to be useful! Initech Feb 2019 #28
It won't pay for itself for decades, we shouldn't fool ourselves. DFW Feb 2019 #31
OK yeah maybe it won't pay for itself. Initech Feb 2019 #32
No argument there. DFW Feb 2019 #36
Have you ever traveled by Amtrak through Pennsylvania? theboss Feb 2019 #45
I have only traveled through PA by car and air DFW Feb 2019 #52
The oligarchs don't need it. moondust Feb 2019 #23
The oligarchs would drive Mercedes? Initech Feb 2019 #34
Rolls indeed. moondust Feb 2019 #38
"Um, what's a "Koenigsegg"?" Swedish Supercar maker: EX500rider Feb 2019 #56
My husband drove Bart (subway in SF) marlakay Feb 2019 #24
This is also the reason for the 8 lane highways and the horrendous traffic jams west of NYC DFW Feb 2019 #26
My husband has a old tape marlakay Feb 2019 #30
Standard Oil Of California DFW Feb 2019 #35
One could make the argument General Motors and Firestone were equally culpable Brother Buzz Feb 2019 #42
There is a pretty good network in northeastern NJ now NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #75
Yes, but there are lots of areas still without coverage DFW Feb 2019 #81
No, they didn't brooklynite Feb 2019 #27
Part of that plays into the idea that public transportation can bring the public to you. theboss Feb 2019 #46
Moses didn't use infrastructure to force segregation... brooklynite Feb 2019 #49
He wasn't as specific as Daley who literally used highways as barricades. theboss Feb 2019 #60
The Shanghai maglev is a showpiece item that has little practical value brooklynite Feb 2019 #25
Republicans don't want to invest in any public services vlyons Feb 2019 #29
Is that really the issue in California? theboss Feb 2019 #48
It's not, excessive regulations in California killed the high speed railway project ansible Feb 2019 #57
Exactly. mainer Feb 2019 #58
Widespread use of eminent domain proceedings has taken its toll ripcord Feb 2019 #33
Well there's always this miyazaki Feb 2019 #40
TRAINZ is a better product brooklynite Feb 2019 #50
There has been talk of running an experimental hyperloop between St Louis and KC xmas74 Feb 2019 #43
This makes the most sense logistically in the MidWest theboss Feb 2019 #47
They also looked at it from an employment angle. xmas74 Feb 2019 #51
Lol the issue is simple, not enough population density to support tens of billions in investment grantcart Feb 2019 #54
I guess the issue with the East Coast is who exactly are you seeking to serve? theboss Feb 2019 #59
high speed doesn't stop every few miles IronLionZion Feb 2019 #70
I agree completely. theboss Feb 2019 #73
The rail lines in Connecticut to Grand Central in NYC are slower now NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #76
Meanwhile, in China Baclava Feb 2019 #63
China's massive population size is unbelievable IronLionZion Feb 2019 #69
Funny how something that makes sense in China doesn't make sense in California. grantcart Feb 2019 #74
You're comparing cities to a state NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #80
Sigh grantcart Feb 2019 #89
train stations NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #95
Lol typically? Really? Except none of what you refer to applies to SoCal where the airports are base grantcart Feb 2019 #103
China doesn't have to worry about private property rights nor environmental impact theboss Feb 2019 #78
Driving time between Los Angeles and San Francisco is about 6 hours. MineralMan Feb 2019 #66
When was the last time you made it from downtown LA to downtown SF in 6 hours? SunSeeker Feb 2019 #84
When was the last time you made it from downtown LA to Irvine in 6 hours? LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #88
What are you talking about? SunSeeker Feb 2019 #90
Joking. I've been in LA traffic. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #91
LOL. Yeah, LA traffic is bad, but not THAT bad. nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #92
It took us 2 hours and 45 minutes to get from the La Brea Tar Pits to Anaheim one Friday evening LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #94
People have no choice. It's a terrible situation with no alternatives for most folks. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #96
It all depends on time of day, really. MineralMan Feb 2019 #93
Republicans did everything to run up cost and delay which also ran up cost. We are the 5th onecaliberal Feb 2019 #77
Stopping the project at Bakersfield is just stupid. Xolodno Feb 2019 #85
We need to figure it out. gldstwmn Feb 2019 #86
Perhaps Starting Small With a Short Distance Might Get the Ball Rolling dlk Feb 2019 #104
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