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Tommy_Carcetti

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18. Once the firewall (i.e. the Trump family circle) is breached, things could change radically.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 01:25 PM
Feb 2019

The optics of having a President whose own son has been indicted in relation to actions to the campaign itself are going to look pretty awful for the GOP.

In that event, we could see a Come to Jesus moment from congressional Republicans urging Trump to either resign or not seek re-election because of the damage it might cause. Whether or not he heeds that advice is unknown but don't think that wouldn't happen.

The GOP convention is still over a year away.

At some point, Donald Jr. and Kushner will be indicted, and I think it will be well before the GOP convention.

Yes, it is good to plan for all contingencies and not expect impeachment to be the only goal, and to try to build up our own Presidential candidate in the process.

But we shouldn't ignore the process or the chance of impeachment or forced resignation because those things are not some distant impossibility at this point.

This is an unprecedented scandal of corruption and arguably treason (at least de facto treason, if not de jure treason) and this shouldn't be treated simply as a political matter.

This is a crime.

I, too, am in this really f***ing impatient, ready for Trump to be out club. Shell_Seas Feb 2019 #1
Because of discovery. DetlefK Feb 2019 #2
Yeah! Why doesn't he focus on the demands of bloggers rather than focus on criminal justice? brooklynite Feb 2019 #3
He's not going to be removed from office. Codeine Feb 2019 #4
Yup ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #5
More people need to be thinking like this. bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #6
THIS. (and the two posts before yours). nt MH1 Feb 2019 #58
That may or may not be true... Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #8
What, so it makes sense to leave him in power so he can do even more damage? infullview Feb 2019 #14
Impeach him all you want, Codeine Feb 2019 #20
The math isn't there RIGHT NOW Poiuyt Feb 2019 #33
what would happen bdamomma Feb 2019 #40
Impeachment is a legal process ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #27
That's not what I said... Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #61
It's the sad truth. And yes, 2020 will be BIG. VOX Feb 2019 #15
Once the firewall (i.e. the Trump family circle) is breached, things could change radically. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #18
nt bdamomma Feb 2019 #41
You know what else is unprecedented? How much republicans don't care. Brawndo Feb 2019 #46
Then we have to hope our elections are fair and not interfered with. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #48
I want Justice as badly as anyone but Brawndo Feb 2019 #50
Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 34 people.... WeekiWater Feb 2019 #7
Soon. There's only a few people left to indict and it will be earthshaking when it happens. NightWatcher Feb 2019 #9
yes there was speculation bdamomma Feb 2019 #42
Be patient. The official transcript of Roger Stone was released over a month before his indictment. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #10
It took Republicans 5 years to impeach Clinton, and they were NYC Liberal Feb 2019 #11
Mueller has one shot at it, so he's got to get it right. That takes time. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2019 #12
He will have to be voted out Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2019 #13
This. People want the immediate solution Codeine Feb 2019 #22
last year, John Dean said NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #49
You don't believe that the Senate has a 2/3 vote to out him. CK_John Feb 2019 #16
If we wait to impeach we might as well rename this country Trumpistan infullview Feb 2019 #17
the House has been at work for just 1 month Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #19
"The Senate will have to cave and oust him. . ." Codeine Feb 2019 #21
That's your opinion. I believe we need to shine light on the facts so peoiple can turn on him. infullview Feb 2019 #25
That's your opinion (redux) LanternWaste Feb 2019 #28
And the possibility that GOP senators will do the right thing for the sake of their country... renate Feb 2019 #32
Enough facts have been unearthed Codeine Feb 2019 #53
+1 Brawndo Feb 2019 #55
Exactly, we, including GOPers, already suspect worse than anyone can prove. Yet, Hoyt Feb 2019 #60
You're not really following this, are you? Mueller has produced numerous indictments & convictions Hekate Feb 2019 #23
I agree Hekate. bdamomma Feb 2019 #39
Its frustrating to watch, but I would rather he runs in 2020 ooky Feb 2019 #24
not much has changed since 2016, don't assume he will lose getagrip_already Feb 2019 #26
I think there have been some fundamental changes, and the mid-terms illustrated that quite accuratel LanternWaste Feb 2019 #29
What if they didn't care about the midterms? getagrip_already Feb 2019 #35
after watching bdamomma Feb 2019 #43
There have been indictments and convictions. KWR65 Feb 2019 #30
Chris Cuomo said on his show that night gldstwmn Feb 2019 #31
For whatever reason, there aren't going to be any "Mueller indicments". Not of Trump. Odoreida Feb 2019 #34
maybe fast food will come to our rescue...... getagrip_already Feb 2019 #36
yes hopefully bdamomma Feb 2019 #44
In regards to impeachment bdamomma Feb 2019 #37
Offs You want the investigation to be done, indictments, convictions AND impeachment. Doremus Feb 2019 #38
You sound concerned. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2019 #45
Your concern has swayed me. I'm giving up. Iggo Feb 2019 #47
That's not how it works. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #51
That never gets old. Codeine Feb 2019 #57
He's not going to be impeached nor will he resign BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #52
Before all of you whine & moan about wanting the Mueller report, please stop & think. napi21 Feb 2019 #54
I think that's as likely an outcome as any. Codeine Feb 2019 #56
I'm certain Mr. Mueller is very concerned about you getting impatient. onenote Feb 2019 #59
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