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Flaleftist

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44. I do believe less harmful than cigarettes.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:21 PM
Feb 2019

But I would not recommend it to anyone who is not trying to quit cigarettes.

Is vaping itself harmful? [View all] Recursion Feb 2019 OP
Nicotine can be very harmful. IllinoisBirdWatcher Feb 2019 #1
Can it? What harms are associated with nicotine itself? (nt) Recursion Feb 2019 #2
Here is a summary of detailed studies IllinoisBirdWatcher Feb 2019 #4
So, it seems slightly safer than caffeine, if I'm reading that right (nt) Recursion Feb 2019 #10
Yeah, and my cardiologist bugs me about caffeine as well. IllinoisBirdWatcher Feb 2019 #71
It's a vasoconstrictor for one ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #6
Nicotine is used as a pesticide Poiuyt Feb 2019 #9
So is vinegar (nt) Recursion Feb 2019 #11
A single cigarette can kill a 2-yo child that eats it. A glassful of vinegar will not. Hekate Feb 2019 #120
Yep. We have to watch one of our cats happybird Feb 2019 #130
How do you deal with the nicotine addiction? Blue_true Feb 2019 #60
The same as with cigarettes IllinoisBirdWatcher Feb 2019 #73
No it's not Drahthaardogs Feb 2019 #146
The emissions from it chased me out of our smoke shack at work... Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #3
Uhh huh... jayfish Feb 2019 #22
You're a vaper, apparently? Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #26
All devicces don't create large clouds SoCalNative Feb 2019 #28
Maybe, but those devices emit huge amounts of "what the fuck is that" smoke... Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #30
You don't know what you're talking about. jayfish Feb 2019 #33
We'll see in a few years... Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #35
I'll Take You Up On That But; jayfish Feb 2019 #39
There's not vaping cabals? Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #43
No, there really isn't. jayfish Feb 2019 #47
El Chapo link! Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #55
I'd sooner nominate a cinderblock. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #90
Thanks for the PA! Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #91
All I got for you, slick. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #92
Another PA? Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #93
"Ridicule is the only weapon which may be used against unintelligible propositions." Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #100
Would you describe how they emit smoke, please? Mariana Feb 2019 #41
They drag on a device and then I can't breathe or see shit. Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #49
You said they emit smoke. They don't. Mariana Feb 2019 #51
They emit "steam" Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #54
And again SoCalNative Feb 2019 #109
That's called vapor/mist, not smoke. backscatter712 Feb 2019 #142
Or ask a former 35-year 3 pack a day smoker Doremus Feb 2019 #69
I'm at 40 yrs... Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #70
Apparently your lungs are still pliable enough to inhale and exhale the smoke. Doremus Feb 2019 #74
The devil you know... Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #77
Kids? I'm 64. Doremus Feb 2019 #81
I was Dx'd with asthma when I was 30 Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #80
First mistake is calling it smoke. I won't bother running down the rest. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #83
It's chemical-laden steam... Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #87
it should just smell like steam...but I vape weed not nicotine so maybe.. samnsara Feb 2019 #65
No, it was choking, thick, and (likely) not healthy at all Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #66
Me too! The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #101
does a misty morning make you flee indoors? Inkfreak Feb 2019 #112
For vaping, there's the risk of nicotine dependence. Other risk are associated with vaping, such as WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2019 #5
Loss of dental fillings. eom Cetacea Feb 2019 #36
Can you cite your assertions? jayfish Feb 2019 #50
The respiratory complications are only "associated with," aka correlated. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2019 #57
Popcorn Lung depending on the flavoring, that's about it. uponit7771 Feb 2019 #7
I heard about this in relation to JUUL pods the other day. dewsgirl Feb 2019 #103
Should teens be permitted to vape with zero nicotine fluid? Mariana Feb 2019 #8
As an alternative to ever starting to smoke,... jayfish Feb 2019 #24
A couple of days ago I saw and article saying safeinOhio Feb 2019 #12
I don't think anyone really knows yet. MineralMan Feb 2019 #13
Some adults don't like to see other adults using e-cigs. Mariana Feb 2019 #16
Yes. Cetacea Feb 2019 #37
I think you're right. MineralMan Feb 2019 #82
The only person I know who vapes is a woman in our tailgate group for Ivy League games at CTyankee Feb 2019 #86
There is research saying that nicotine can affect the developing brain. So though nicotine pnwmom Feb 2019 #14
I mean, you could say the same thing about caffeine, right? (nt) Recursion Feb 2019 #15
Well, that's totally different. Somehow. nt. Mariana Feb 2019 #17
I didn't think teens were supposed to drink coffee. I still don't, pnwmom Feb 2019 #19
Who told you teens aren't supposed to drink coffee? nt. Mariana Feb 2019 #45
Back in the old days they used to say pnwmom Feb 2019 #67
Yup, I was told the same thing. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #96
Fascinating. They sold caffeinated drinks at my high school. Mariana Feb 2019 #115
It was definitely a thing in my family. Codeine Feb 2019 #89
I went to high school in the 1980's. Mariana Feb 2019 #114
Me too, which is why it's so weird. Codeine Feb 2019 #123
Well, neither is the crusade against vaping logic-driven. nt. Mariana Feb 2019 #133
Conversly, there is research that suggests it prevents dementia Cetacea Feb 2019 #40
Hint: jayfish Feb 2019 #42
I agree. And I try for the most part. Thanks Cetacea Feb 2019 #46
I Hate to Sound Conspiratorial But; jayfish Feb 2019 #52
Nicotine can be lethal in sufficient quantities? Of course! So can water. Demit Feb 2019 #58
My kids were both hooked at age 12 by the Joe Camel ad campaign, which was aimed at their age group Hekate Feb 2019 #119
Nicotine is harmful and so is vaping Meowmee Feb 2019 #18
I quit smoking tobacco before vaping was a thing, but found that vaping cannabis makes me cough.. aidbo Feb 2019 #20
95% Less Harmful Than Tobacco jayfish Feb 2019 #21
But just as annoying to be around. nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #25
I find Trump supporters, perfume and flatulence annoying. jayfish Feb 2019 #31
I know some teens doing it who never would of started smoking. Not a good thing. nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #32
I'm sure no adult in my life would have ever dreamed I would smoke. jayfish Feb 2019 #34
I've never met a genuine clairvoyant in real life. Mariana Feb 2019 #116
My doctors agree. More than one of my doctors have stated... LuckyCharms Feb 2019 #139
Is it safe for my kid to be in the same room with a relative who vapes nicotine from a Juul? NightWatcher Feb 2019 #23
Should be fine. jayfish Feb 2019 #29
Do you let your kid eat nightshades? They contain nicotine, too. nt. Mariana Feb 2019 #48
She ate a lampshade once... NightWatcher Feb 2019 #64
Probably, but there aren't enough (any) long-term studies to be able to say how bad. DanTex Feb 2019 #27
Yeah, it's kind of like all the additives in cigarette tobacco TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #78
I agree with that, but "not proven safe" is a world away from "proven dangerous", don't you think? Recursion Feb 2019 #105
Absolutely, but there is an awful lot of stuff that is GRAS TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #113
I wouldn't want my child to vape. Dave Starsky Feb 2019 #38
I do believe less harmful than cigarettes. Flaleftist Feb 2019 #44
A Well-Reasoned Opinion -NT- jayfish Feb 2019 #53
I would recommend only two things to vape. Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #59
A friggin men The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #104
All I know is when I was smoking I would have 2 or 3 severe colds a year causing asthmatic vsrazdem Feb 2019 #56
So true and I would get a disgusting phloemmy cough and bad nasal drip year round. GONE! NT UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #84
Same thing Jersey Devil Feb 2019 #125
Doctors acknowledge that vaping nicotine is harm reduction. Demit Feb 2019 #61
American studies are crap. Sweden, Norway, Uk, Germany have OregonBlue Feb 2019 #62
its the nicotine in the flavored juice samnsara Feb 2019 #63
Don't feed the trolls Pisces Feb 2019 #68
yeah, no shit... Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #72
Harm is extremely rare* when e-cigs are used purely to quit cigarettes or chew.... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2019 #75
It is sad that teens are targeted. This is what happens when corporation profit is put above Doodley Feb 2019 #76
How are teens being targeted? nt. Mariana Feb 2019 #122
Candy flavors, social media clearly aimed at youngsters,, marketing images using young models Doodley Feb 2019 #134
I will stick with hashish and bourbon. Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #79
Until nicotine is outlawed....enough of this bullshit. Pass the vape pon the left hand side. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #85
I'll stick with the dutchie... Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #88
Yes, it causes a condition called "Popcorn Lung". DetlefK Feb 2019 #94
Not according to this link. LuckyCharms Feb 2019 #97
It must be fun to just make shit up and believe it. nt. Mariana Feb 2019 #108
Fake news Jersey Devil Feb 2019 #124
I quit smoking and started vaping 6 years ago. LuckyCharms Feb 2019 #95
Having one blow up in your face would probably ruin your day... pecosbob Feb 2019 #98
That's why you don't mess with home made vaping mods. LuckyCharms Feb 2019 #99
What we've learned, since vaping began to get popular Mariana Feb 2019 #102
Bu ... bu ... bu ... it's still the dreaded CHEMICALS!!11! mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #107
Completely smoke free locations drmeow Feb 2019 #127
Now we have at least one person on this thread Mariana Feb 2019 #128
No kidding. happybird Feb 2019 #132
Hard to say for sure. logosoco Feb 2019 #106
Not sure, tbh. I have no problem with kids doing it either, or marketing to kids. Oneironaut Feb 2019 #110
Had a friend who owned a chain of vaping stores Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #111
Harmless unless you think lifelong addiction and cancers are a problem. It's nicotine. Hekate Feb 2019 #117
Does nicotine cause cancer? (nt) Recursion Feb 2019 #121
No, it doesn't. Mariana Feb 2019 #126
It's Big Tobacco and they target teenagers. Any more questions? Hekate Feb 2019 #118
Would you show us how they target teenagers, please? Mariana Feb 2019 #129
Not harmful Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #131
I'm new here so I'll try not to aggravate anyone, but as an ex-smoker who ForgedCrank Feb 2019 #135
Hear Hear! Leith Feb 2019 #136
Some people really, really hate smokers - and former smokers, too. Mariana Feb 2019 #137
This is correct. and the ironic thing is that each one of my doctors have LuckyCharms Feb 2019 #138
Well, I didn't really want to say that, but it appears that is the case a lot of times ForgedCrank Feb 2019 #140
It's less harmful than smoking. backscatter712 Feb 2019 #141
Nicotine IS a vasoconstrictor. I used to believe as you do that it janx Feb 2019 #143
If they were really concerned about "secondhand nicotine" Mariana Feb 2019 #144
Chemicals in flavorings are harmful loyalsister Feb 2019 #145
This has already been addressed upthread Mariana Feb 2019 #147
The jury is still out loyalsister Feb 2019 #148
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