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38. According to a UN document,

Reply to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:24 PM

Feb 2019

her father gave up his diplomatic post on October 18, 1994. I can't find her birthdate but that would clarify whether or not she is a citizen. Also important is did she ever give up her citizenship. If she is a citizen, she should be allowed to return and as a terrorist put immediately on another plane for a vacation in Gitmo.

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The "Isis Bride" . . . . let her come back or not? [View all] Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 OP

If she is a United States citizen, she is authorized access to the US Justice System maxrandb Feb 2019 #1

Exactly.. LakeArenal Feb 2019 #2

3rded ... we let John Walker come home didn't we? His case was much more serious IMHO ... (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #3

THIS bluestarone Feb 2019 #24

I foresee Trump declaring her an enemy combatant and shipping her off to Gitmo. Calista241 Feb 2019 #66

If she's proven to be a citizen leftynyc Feb 2019 #4

That's exactly what I think. LuvNewcastle Feb 2019 #11

It puzzles me she wants to come back leftynyc Feb 2019 #19

She's off her nut. LuvNewcastle Feb 2019 #42

Reading her social media posts leftynyc Feb 2019 #46

Same thing I thought SCantiGOP Feb 2019 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author bernie59 Feb 2019 #115

she made her decision and there is price to be paid, Screw her and any one else in same boat beachbum bob Feb 2019 #5

I agree customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #50

"Christian family and raised right".... Pachamama Feb 2019 #68

I'm an atheist customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #74

So as an Atheist you believe Religion and Religious upbringing should be used to punish someone of Pachamama Feb 2019 #76

No, it was just me piling on customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #77

????? Pachamama Feb 2019 #78

Read a little further customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #81

Wow. Autumn Feb 2019 #113

Technically, if she's brainwashed, she can recover when removed, however, if she relapses... TheBlackAdder Feb 2019 #52

I believe she is a US born citizen, she and her child should be allowed to return to US, should have Pachamama Feb 2019 #6

father was a former diplomat... different standards... Dan Feb 2019 #58

Not accurate.... Pachamama Feb 2019 #63

Well, she might, but Dan Feb 2019 #93

If she was born a US citizen, she can't be kept out struggle4progress Feb 2019 #7

Sorry, no. peggysue2 Feb 2019 #8

So, you believe the administration can banish US citizens from the US? jberryhill Feb 2019 #12

Isn't her citizenship status under dispute? tritsofme Feb 2019 #44

Where do we resolve legal disputes in this country? jberryhill Feb 2019 #45

Well... that depends on the "we" and "in this country", right? FBaggins Feb 2019 #104

No. I'm saying I have very little sympathy for the woman herself peggysue2 Feb 2019 #48

I have sympathy for the Constitution and laws of the US, and for due process jberryhill Feb 2019 #49

There have been a few past cases where birthright citizenship was not automatic. Blue_true Feb 2019 #84

How does being 'remorseful' affect her citizenship status? jberryhill Feb 2019 #85

You have a point. But I would rather her show true remorse than not. Blue_true Feb 2019 #117

Are all natural born children American citizens? No... there is one exception. keithbvadu2 Feb 2019 #108

It's also international law dalton99a Feb 2019 #109

Orange Shitgibbon is trying to use this case to end birthright citizenship. bullwinkle428 Feb 2019 #9

You do realize the Obama administration rejected her ability to return as welll. GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #17

+1000 Pachamama Feb 2019 #70

If she is a US citizen, she has an absolute right to enter the US jberryhill Feb 2019 #10

+1000. nt. MH1 Feb 2019 #14

+1 treestar Feb 2019 #27

+1000 Pachamama Feb 2019 #71

It's controversial because it is the kind of issue that gets the authoritarians fired up. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #75

"If" she committed a crime? Polybius Feb 2019 #111

I agree, but I think this is a passive aggressive technique used to generate more hate ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #116

The Obama administration determined she was not a U.S. citizen at birth dalton99a Feb 2019 #13

Case closed then workinclasszero Feb 2019 #23

Ah, of course jberryhill Feb 2019 #28

Alabama woman who joined ISIS sues to return to the U.S. workinclasszero Feb 2019 #31

Now that's some irony! LanternWaste Feb 2019 #53

Link to info that supports this claim? Pachamama Feb 2019 #72

Here Polybius Feb 2019 #112

Did she appeal? treestar Feb 2019 #73

Bring her back and let her face terrorism charges. Eugene Feb 2019 #15

I thought the evidence was that her parents were here because of her father's diplomat status. Shrike47 Feb 2019 #21

The State Department said this in 2016. Her father disputes this. Eugene Feb 2019 #26

Keep it in mind people with connections (Wasta in Arabic) can get almost any document they want JCMach1 Feb 2019 #69

Quitting your diplomatic job is not enough. The U.S. State Department must be formally notified dalton99a Feb 2019 #106

She needs to be prosecuted in the US as a US citizen. LuckyCharms Feb 2019 #16

Her father was a diplomat snowybirdie Feb 2019 #18

Where is this info coming from regarding diplomat children? Pachamama Feb 2019 #64

Here ya go: Polybius Feb 2019 #114

There might be a bright side to this. President Lawless and Disorder, GemDigger Feb 2019 #20

Seriously? workinclasszero Feb 2019 #22

That's a silly question jberryhill Feb 2019 #29

Someone that joined ISIS is a mass murderer workinclasszero Feb 2019 #34

Yes, so? jberryhill Feb 2019 #37

A US citizen is always allowed back treestar Feb 2019 #25

If she is a U.S. Citizen she has the right bluecollar2 Feb 2019 #30

Bring her home and put her on trial get the red out Feb 2019 #32

She's a citizen, so she's entitled to return to the U.S. - and face prosecution here. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #33

The Obama administration determined she wasn't a citizen in 2016 ripcord Feb 2019 #55

My understanding is that she was born after her father was no longer a diplomat. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #86

I doubt I would have believed Trump's administration ripcord Feb 2019 #97

If ISIS had won... Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #35

Sorry, you went to join ISIS, who would have no problem beheading any of us. JuJuYoshida Feb 2019 #36

Yep jberryhill Feb 2019 #40

According to a UN document, Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #38

She is 24 years old. That would put her birth around late 1995. nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #87

Her child should be adopted by a gay Jewish couple and Jose Garcia Feb 2019 #39

I know several young women that have done/could do similar. haele Feb 2019 #41

I can't say this enough eissa Feb 2019 #43

Both of the men she married are dead. She is unsure which one is the father of her child. Blue_true Feb 2019 #88

She should be allowed to return fishwax Feb 2019 #47

Follow the law! DBoon Feb 2019 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Pachamama Feb 2019 #65

Honestly(imho), she shouldn't be let back in even if she's a citizen. Afromania Feb 2019 #56

Come home, face justice in a court of law. She seems to be willing to do that... Hekate Feb 2019 #57

If she returns to the US knowing she's facing trial, so be it. davsand Feb 2019 #59

Trump just got done criticising Europe for not taking back ISIS members muriel_volestrangler Feb 2019 #60

This is not her home. Lunabell Feb 2019 #61

If she is a citizen, she never gives up that right unless she formally renounced her citizenship. Blue_true Feb 2019 #89

She isn't a citizen and has zero right to come back Amishman Feb 2019 #62

My first thought on this was Hell No but tiredtoo Feb 2019 #67

You voted for a republican once? Blue_true Feb 2019 #92

I can forgive but I can't forget. EOM tiredtoo Feb 2019 #99

If she is truly remorseful, she can explain to young women being pulled into radicalism, Blue_true Feb 2019 #79

If she did renounce her citizenship in the past and that can be avebury Feb 2019 #80

There's no "let" about it Loki Liesmith Feb 2019 #82

The question is whether she was a citizen to begin with. Blue_true Feb 2019 #94

No fuckin' way Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #83

From what I have read, she doesn't care if she is tried and jailed. Blue_true Feb 2019 #95

Okay, last I checked she *didn't* want to cooperate Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #96

She should come home, do her time in prison, Ilsa Feb 2019 #90

actually her actions are the definition of treason and she should be tried under UCMJ which beachbum bob Feb 2019 #91

If she's a civilian the UCMJ doesn't apply, no matter what she did. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #98

No nt Raine Feb 2019 #100

she renounced her citizenship ! stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #101

and it was revoked in 2016 Tiggeroshii Feb 2019 #102

I'm with President Obama on this - She is not a Citizen and can't come to the USA Alea Feb 2019 #103

I trust President Obama and the decisions he made. GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #105

No Renew Deal Feb 2019 #107

Let her decide by giving her this choice Polybius Feb 2019 #110