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Uh-oh. MineralMan Mar 2019 #1
Know them very well for almost 18 years..... Pachamama Mar 2019 #2
Things have changed so much. MineralMan Mar 2019 #6
I agree that things have changed. lkinwi Mar 2019 #29
Heck, I'm a couple of years younger than you and took my SAT PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #53
I remember picking my school after a Sunday drive with a friend Iris Mar 2019 #80
Are the parents on the list for cheating for themselves or cheating for the kid? Renew Deal Mar 2019 #3
Good Question..... Pachamama Mar 2019 #5
The sad t hing is, what they did *isn't* what's best for their kid. WillowTree Mar 2019 #15
Right. Dorian Gray Mar 2019 #46
Not to mention, every kid doesn't have to be a high achiever TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #86
The indictment lists people involved in a variety of different schemes jberryhill Mar 2019 #19
Oh man, these kids who didn't know, who have been betrayed by their parents - the full force of Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #4
How do you not know that you didn't do well on a test? jrthin Mar 2019 #21
On an aptitude test it is difficult to know jberryhill Mar 2019 #24
Right. Also, I took the test in two separate years, and I did a lot better the second time. pnwmom Mar 2019 #65
But the test makers do give you your percentile ranking. Dave Starsky Mar 2019 #90
And Dunning Kruger takes care of the rest jberryhill Mar 2019 #93
Thanks for the smile. How true. jrthin Mar 2019 #96
Yeah, there is so much of this I don't understand at this point, j, and I may never - Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #25
An answer to one small part of your question leftieNanner Mar 2019 #30
Thank you for answering; I was looking for perspectives. jrthin Mar 2019 #34
The coaches of the sport mercuryblues Mar 2019 #99
While the kid did know they did not play the sport, Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #111
I have 4 kids mercuryblues Mar 2019 #122
My understanding is that - regardless of what you believe - Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #125
Thank you. And you're right about the SATs and such tests. Those aren't jrthin Mar 2019 #33
I read that some of these photos were photoshopped. And in one case pnwmom Mar 2019 #66
Only some of them were involved in the test cheating, and it isn't easy to know pnwmom Mar 2019 #64
Who Said They RobinA Mar 2019 #107
Read the indictments. Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #112
I don't get it- dawg day Mar 2019 #7
"In fact, cheating to get into a college you wouldn't otherwise get into is a good sign... 3catwoman3 Mar 2019 #16
And sometimes this is all about the parents' egos leftieNanner Mar 2019 #31
The big secret is we live in a class society. jrthin Mar 2019 #36
Not just "Social position" Duppers Mar 2019 #47
You should be darn proud of your two boys: they achieved their positions jrthin Mar 2019 #116
"by ...earning their education, they have healthy self esteem." Duppers Mar 2019 #121
RE your husband's experience, ugh! The wealthy keep saying the system is rigged; jrthin Mar 2019 #124
Thank you again. Duppers Mar 2019 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2019 #61
My cousin's husband went Wayne state law school in the 70s MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2019 #118
It really is! MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #119
University of American Somoa itsrobert Mar 2019 #128
My sister went to an elite college crazycatlady Mar 2019 #109
Good for you; you know your worth! The "college experience" didn't jrthin Mar 2019 #117
Or, if they wanted to be selfish, pnwmom Mar 2019 #67
When you are that wealthy everything is about status DBoon Mar 2019 #106
This has been going on since there were elite colleges in the US. octoberlib Mar 2019 #8
The Ivy Leagues are the worst, especially at the undergrad level. Duppers Mar 2019 #51
He was a legacy. n/t gldstwmn Mar 2019 #60
Yeah, that's another problem. Why should anybody be accepted octoberlib Mar 2019 #78
Because they are private schools that make their own policies. gldstwmn Mar 2019 #131
Funniest part is that UT wouldn't let Bush into law school MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #76
And how did Trump and 4 of his kids get into UPenn? crazycatlady Mar 2019 #110
So long as the daughter is doing okay at school.. Adrahil Mar 2019 #9
She is a great kid - and sweet and smart and no attitude Pachamama Mar 2019 #10
Hopefully, this all works out for her. Adrahil Mar 2019 #13
You might want to change the word doping to doing in you title! lunatica Mar 2019 #11
OOPS! Thanks! Adrahil Mar 2019 #12
Yeah, that happens to me all the time! lunatica Mar 2019 #26
This is why you should support your local community college. Coventina Mar 2019 #14
And after graduation, you get exciting jobs where you say, Wednesdays Mar 2019 #35
Uh, No Leith Mar 2019 #37
Personal experience, plus what I witnessed among friends and family. Wednesdays Mar 2019 #39
My personal experience was v different.My friends with specific degrees went straight into careers Hekate Mar 2019 #73
Study after study has shown that community colleges vastly benefit Coventina Mar 2019 #105
Educate yourself. You have no idea what you are talking about. n/t Coventina Mar 2019 #38
See reply #39. nt Wednesdays Mar 2019 #40
I turned my community college associates essme Mar 2019 #41
Definitely WAS NOT my experience.... reACTIONary Mar 2019 #43
I graduated from a Comm. College, and I now advise clients whether they should take guilty pleas. Progressive Law Mar 2019 #49
What about transfers? shanti Mar 2019 #57
Really? GaYellowDawg Mar 2019 #62
I know a former community college student that has a bachelors, two masters, and a doctorate Renew Deal Mar 2019 #88
that is the same attitude these parents had. Inkfreak Mar 2019 #92
Just get the associates degree there and then go to law school Polybius Mar 2019 #95
I went to a community college back in CT and wound up a respected literary agent in Hollywood. TeamPooka Mar 2019 #123
I really don't feel sorry for any of them Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #17
Lori Laughlin's supposed to be some holy roller. Her next series, she's in "Full Inda Big House!" TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #18
That's what I always read.. and how does this.. Cha Mar 2019 #69
LOL. That's rich. Dave Starsky Mar 2019 #91
I think they want the best for their kids and they can afford it Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #20
very different... reACTIONary Mar 2019 #44
I still don't get it... Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #22
Because that's millions, not thousands MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #81
I didn't know that USC was rusty fender Mar 2019 #23
It's a private Methodist university, Ilsa Mar 2019 #32
Indeed, there are big differences Duppers Mar 2019 #48
Well that's a little elitist, don't you think? WillowTree Mar 2019 #50
+1 n/t Lefta Dissenter Mar 2019 #85
See my reply to the post you replied to for clarification. NT Ilsa Mar 2019 #104
What I'm saying is that the parents Ilsa Mar 2019 #102
And the more that I think about this whole thing, this makes that USC degree mean just a little less WillowTree Mar 2019 #54
Ok, but rusty fender Mar 2019 #70
No, it isn't worth cheating. Ilsa Mar 2019 #103
Question: how does the kid not know? zaj Mar 2019 #27
For some of them it was fraudulent test scores, not athletics. Nt lostnfound Mar 2019 #45
The student didn't know - she had good (legit) scores and grades - but the parents paid to have Pachamama Mar 2019 #98
Makes you wonder... zaj Mar 2019 #108
I think that we will be hearing more in future of big sweeping changes in how the admissions and Pachamama Mar 2019 #113
I feel for you Pachamama, seeing parents that you know... FM123 Mar 2019 #28
The status of parents depends on where their kids go to school and what they do after cally Mar 2019 #42
I didn't read the scandal. What makes this different than what Harvard, Yale, etc. grads napi21 Mar 2019 #52
This is actual fraud. As in... breaking federal laws. MissB Mar 2019 #55
Jared Kushner anyone? C student at best straight to Harvard. JDC Mar 2019 #56
But legal. School gets the money; school decides to let him in MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #82
Yes, there is a distinction. JDC Mar 2019 #83
Yes. And Jared is the poster child for inequality MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #84
I have sympathy for the students who didn't know. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #58
I don't feel sympathy for any of these people. If your parents have that much money SweetieD Mar 2019 #59
When privilege isn't enough... it's not easy being green ($$$$). allgood33 Mar 2019 #68
I feel bad for the students involved, most of whom apparently didn't know what their parents pnwmom Mar 2019 #63
agreed obamanut2012 Mar 2019 #94
I'm so very sorry, Pachamama. When bad events hit close to home, it really hurts. nt Hekate Mar 2019 #71
This kind of thing was sort of an open secret when I was in my senior year of high school DFW Mar 2019 #72
Yikes, making employees leave the office in tears? Tipperary Mar 2019 #115
Sorry, yes it is. DFW Mar 2019 #133
I know. I felt bad for any kid who was reading this on her phone, finding out MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #74
On the other side of the coin my very close friend's daughter wanted desperately to go to USC MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #75
The parents and daughter knew what they were doing. stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #77
The parents knew....the daughter didn't in this case Pachamama Mar 2019 #97
I'm sure... Mike Nelson Mar 2019 #87
We Live in a Status-Conscious Culture-It's Everywhere dlk Mar 2019 #89
Didn't Ivanka just say the other day kskiska Mar 2019 #100
You should feel sick. We should all feel sick. vlyons Mar 2019 #101
+100000 Pachamama Mar 2019 #114
Even so --- vlyons Mar 2019 #120
I don't know any of them personally kennetha Mar 2019 #126
What a disservice to these kids. MontanaMama Mar 2019 #129
Knowing what you know, do you think the kids should be allowed to stay? rainin Mar 2019 #130
Depends - Each University needs to review the circumstances Pachamama Mar 2019 #134
Having just gone through the college AP process with my son, I don't see how the kids onecaliberal Mar 2019 #132
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