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Hekate

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20. Bejaysus, not this again
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:58 PM
Mar 2019

Short of a nuclear catastrophe, this will never happen.

And it certainly wouldn't be peaceful. California, which outsiders think of as entirely Blue, has its fair share of alt-right, white-nationalist, KKK, Nazi groups, sovereign citizens, and all of them heavily armed and dangerous. You think they'd go along quietly?

We already had a nutball Calexit plan that was supposed to go on the ballot -- the leader had an address in San Diego, iirc, but his office was in (wait for it) Russia. California Republic, riiight.

Then another that involved splitting California into 3 states. It got hotly debated at good old DU, where people thought we'd get 6 Democratic US Senators out of the deal. On the contrary, the two inland states would vote very conservative, yielding 4 GOP Senators from there and 2 Dem Senators from the Coast.

Show me where there is any legal, Constitutional, provision for secession from the United States. It was already tried. It didn't work.

As for peaceful partition with people choosing to relocate: get yourself a book on the history of the partition of India and Pakistan.

Post removed [View all] Post removed Mar 2019 OP
Utter stupidity. jberryhill Mar 2019 #1
Did you mean "udder"? True Dough Mar 2019 #2
An entertaining puzzle to figure out how the OP selected the states involved. nt FBaggins Mar 2019 #3
Apparently... jberryhill Mar 2019 #7
Sorry. I forgot Delaware. Yavin4 Mar 2019 #13
Great jberryhill Mar 2019 #16
Well you have a good night as well. Yavin4 Mar 2019 #35
Hah, yeah jberryhill Mar 2019 #74
Also, I've spelled it correctly now. Yavin4 Mar 2019 #36
Better to stay united when the Republicans nominate "worse than Trump" in 2024 or 2028 Yavin4 Mar 2019 #6
Who gets the Nuclear Weapons Trenzalore Mar 2019 #4
The red country can have the nukes, for whatever good that will do them. Blue_true Mar 2019 #19
The red country would nuke the blue country in minutes with no deterrent. Trenzalore Mar 2019 #21
Long range laser technology has been in development for some time. Blue_true Mar 2019 #31
Nope FrankBooth Mar 2019 #5
That would prove to be his nightmare. Blue_true Mar 2019 #22
I've been for THIS IDEA for a long time. The Red States can have their democratisphere Mar 2019 #8
Lets Not. n/t GP6971 Mar 2019 #9
Oh, FFS. No. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #10
This is exactly what putin wants. Progressive Law Mar 2019 #11
That's right! One does not have to look very hard to see Russian troops at the mason dixon line Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #52
It would make more sense to divide into two countries, 25 states each. Blue_true Mar 2019 #12
I was thinking the other day that after slavery was ended, we should have told confederate states to Hoyt Mar 2019 #14
And what would you have done with the 3.5 million freed slaves there? (per 1850 census) Hekate Mar 2019 #23
Invited them to Blue states, where life would be better. Would hope my ancestors Hoyt Mar 2019 #27
My gods. I can't even. Hekate Mar 2019 #29
how about some kind of union with canada as new provinces? rampartc Mar 2019 #15
Why the hell would peaceful, sane, Canada even want us? nt Hekate Mar 2019 #24
Kind of like The Man In The High Castle German/Japan split. Funtatlaguy Mar 2019 #17
IF this was possible, which it is not, imagine the consequences. TomSlick Mar 2019 #18
The seperation would give adults a choice of which country to live in. Blue_true Mar 2019 #25
The elderly and the poor be damned? TomSlick Mar 2019 #44
Adults in both groups get a choice of country, move assistance and loving assistance in the new Blue_true Mar 2019 #47
Tom, did you read what I wrote? Blue_true Mar 2019 #49
civil wars rarely give people more choices. fescuerescue Mar 2019 #61
Adults all have a choice now where they want to live, right? Captain Stern Mar 2019 #75
Bejaysus, not this again Hekate Mar 2019 #20
Adults will get their choice of country at the seperation. Blue_true Mar 2019 #26
You really need to read up on India and Pakistan. Also, why in hell would my GOP neighbors... Hekate Mar 2019 #28
They would get assistance to move and set up in the new country. Blue_true Mar 2019 #37
Your post deserves a KnR of its own Leith Mar 2019 #40
Thank you Hekate Mar 2019 #72
We tried this in the 1800's Fla_Democrat Mar 2019 #30
When? Polybius Mar 2019 #33
Just because the OP demands that it be peaceful fescuerescue Mar 2019 #62
Not really. Blue_true Mar 2019 #38
Assistance from who? Fla_Democrat Mar 2019 #51
Assistance would happen during the transition and would be funded by Blue_true Mar 2019 #53
That's what I said...... Fla_Democrat Mar 2019 #56
I'm all for it Polybius Mar 2019 #32
Let's not.. brooklynite Mar 2019 #34
He's what about Illinois? Are we chopped liver? hedda_foil Mar 2019 #39
This is actually a pretty good idea. Joe941 Mar 2019 #41
Ok. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2019 #42
The Blue States would Jspur Mar 2019 #43
Let's turn loose all the Slobodan Milosevic clones, just waiting for their chance. NBachers Mar 2019 #45
this Puzzledtraveller Mar 2019 #55
Boo. I am stuck in TX now. If we go blue, can we come?? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #46
That will Leave Behind a Large Number of the Democratic Base (African AMericans) in REd STates JI7 Mar 2019 #48
That's a good point. Turin_C3PO Mar 2019 #67
So East and West and piss on the rest? Greybnk48 Mar 2019 #50
Fuk NO dweller Mar 2019 #54
Apparently, Russia was pushing this stuff in 2016. NCLefty Mar 2019 #57
And it would not solve the 2 party drama fescuerescue Mar 2019 #64
That's really unAmerican, you know. WheelWalker Mar 2019 #58
This idea won't seem so far-fetched should 45 go full-fascist. VOX Mar 2019 #59
I'm glad that you have declared it to be peaceful fescuerescue Mar 2019 #60
In each new country, opposition political parties will pop up fescuerescue Mar 2019 #63
Absolutely not. If you love something, you try to fix it. You don't abandon it. musicblind Mar 2019 #65
Would be nice but it's a dream. Turin_C3PO Mar 2019 #66
A civil war that we would lose handily... Jackwagon Mar 2019 #68
I agree with your post. Turin_C3PO Mar 2019 #69
But that's the rub... Jackwagon Mar 2019 #70
Putin's Dream Scenario? delisen Mar 2019 #71
Leave or Stay - At What Point Do You File For Divorce? FrankTC Mar 2019 #73
I may hate the politics in Florida but I am here for the weather katmondoo Mar 2019 #76
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