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In reply to the discussion: Doesn't look like Hanes or Fruit of the loom [View all]Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)36. He has a fairly high rank within his church
http://www.heraldextra.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/religion/romney-as-mormon-church-leader-became-master-of-many-keys/article_1a5f2d4d-e1fe-597c-99f2-fed1a1804777.html
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In the back office of his Weston, Mass., headquarters a quarter century ago, Mitt Romney, the chief Mormon authority in the Boston area, told the leader of his Spanish-speaking congregation that he would not directly pay for lawyers to help the growing number of illegal immigrants in his church. Then he carefully instructed his subordinate on how to circumvent the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints new hard line against such assistance and subsidize their legal aide.
"In those issues I cannot help you financially to pay for lawyers," Romney said, according to Jose Francisco Anleu, a Guatemalan immigrant. "But what I can do is allow you to give them food assistance from the bishop's warehouse," a church welfare pantry. The money saved could be used to "pay lawyers." He reminded Anleu that he could use church funds to cover rent, utilities and health care for his needy members. The money came from Anleu's budget, but, as Anleu noted decades later, it was a budget sustained by Romney's office.
A close look at Romney's leadership in his church shows how his actions sometimes clashed with his political positions, which include advocating on the campaign trail for a policy of "self-deportation." Romney's decades as a lay church leader -- first as bishop and later as stake president, which gave him dominion over all the church congregations in and around Boston -- shaped a man as orthodox and committed to his faith as any presidential nominee in history. It is an experience that demonstrates Romney's mastery of the institution and confidence in his authority.
"Mitt's responsibilities in the church had either been teaching or supportive," said Gordon Williams, who as a Boston stake president acted as Romney's mentor and patron. "When you are a bishop, you are the lone person in the wilderness, all the responsibility is yours now." Spiritually, Williams added, "this then requires the expansion of a different element of your understanding about how to interact with people -- particularly in an ecclesiastical sense, rather than being a CEO of a company."
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In the back office of his Weston, Mass., headquarters a quarter century ago, Mitt Romney, the chief Mormon authority in the Boston area, told the leader of his Spanish-speaking congregation that he would not directly pay for lawyers to help the growing number of illegal immigrants in his church. Then he carefully instructed his subordinate on how to circumvent the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints new hard line against such assistance and subsidize their legal aide.
"In those issues I cannot help you financially to pay for lawyers," Romney said, according to Jose Francisco Anleu, a Guatemalan immigrant. "But what I can do is allow you to give them food assistance from the bishop's warehouse," a church welfare pantry. The money saved could be used to "pay lawyers." He reminded Anleu that he could use church funds to cover rent, utilities and health care for his needy members. The money came from Anleu's budget, but, as Anleu noted decades later, it was a budget sustained by Romney's office.
A close look at Romney's leadership in his church shows how his actions sometimes clashed with his political positions, which include advocating on the campaign trail for a policy of "self-deportation." Romney's decades as a lay church leader -- first as bishop and later as stake president, which gave him dominion over all the church congregations in and around Boston -- shaped a man as orthodox and committed to his faith as any presidential nominee in history. It is an experience that demonstrates Romney's mastery of the institution and confidence in his authority.
"Mitt's responsibilities in the church had either been teaching or supportive," said Gordon Williams, who as a Boston stake president acted as Romney's mentor and patron. "When you are a bishop, you are the lone person in the wilderness, all the responsibility is yours now." Spiritually, Williams added, "this then requires the expansion of a different element of your understanding about how to interact with people -- particularly in an ecclesiastical sense, rather than being a CEO of a company."
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Lots of people in high positions in religious denominations are heartless, greedy, liars. nt
nanabugg
Aug 2012
#104
OK I personally believe that those that are religious are of weak mind and character
IgnatiusReilly
Aug 2012
#12
Seeing that religion has caused more harm and killed more people than Atheism, why yes
IgnatiusReilly
Aug 2012
#14
A religion is a thing kept sacred by those who believe it, when they make the choice to profane
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2012
#44
I've walked around with ashes on my head and could not give a shit if you think I looked silly
blueamy66
Aug 2012
#114
i think we've circled around to the original point of this thread. magic underwear as silly as
piratefish08
Aug 2012
#39
Religious tolerance ends when the religious try to pass laws aimed at making others adhere
RC
Aug 2012
#67
So if I mock anti gay bigots for bigoted actions, that is me being cruel? But they can cite 'faith'
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2012
#45
You are not correct the faith is not a crutch it is a cudgel. They use it as a weapon against others
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2012
#53
Well the target of a good spoof or satire is not likely to find laughter in it.
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2012
#123
Your whole 'humor is bad' and 'mockery is cruelty' concept is interesting.
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2012
#55
No offense but you are the one who failed to respond to my first post as written and went off on
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2012
#122
Well if I rallied people to her side and did not work, why is she a has been and Tina Fey a large
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2012
#119
The LDS church has spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to look like a mainstream religion.
Blue Idaho
Aug 2012
#73