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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
57. When did we disagree?
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 12:44 PM
Apr 2019

I'm not recalling where I have replied to you, let alone contradicted you on anything in this thread...

It seems as though you are following me around on other threads now. Should I be flattered?

Here is my response that I gave to you:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11996097

You stated that Nancy was "afraid" to rile up his base, as though she was a coward, and that just didn't please you at all, in the least. When one states that a woman 'fears' something, it's usually calling her weak. Whereas if a man refrains from an unwise action, or states that he fears a negative outcome from an action, it's often referred to as "being realistic."

I have said on other threads that the GOP was promising their base in 2018 that Dems would immediately impeach Trump if they took the house, in order to get them riled up to vote for GOP congresspersons. That is the kind of unneccessary riled up that none of us want. Even you have to admit that. Refusing to stoke that furnace and funding for GOP candidates might be considered a wise move, yes?

I recall being supportive of Pelosi for being realistic and throwing water on that promise while trolling DT in the process by saying "He's not worth it." Unfortunately, many men on the left felt emasculated by that as well when they found out that they weren't going to get the televised impeachment gladiator match that they were "owed" by the Speaker.

We don't need to repeat the stupid mistakes of the GOP, like the pointless "Benghazi" investigations that were clearly about throwing red meat to the base, while wasting taxpayer money on something they knew they were not going to win, AND handing their opponent a win on a silver platter. They were convinced they were going to show how weak, emotional and confused she would be under questioning, and it backfired. Spectacularly.

Handing Trump a win in an impeachment that doesn't take him out (which is what would happen WHEN the GOP Senate doesn't vote to remove him) would be an idiotic mistake of epic proportions, and would indeed rile up his base uneccessarily to defend him in 2020.

Yes, I would rather Speaker Pelosi "fear" the result of a spectacularly stupid stunt simply to soothe the anxiety of legions of Lefty men across the country who feel "disrespected" by her doing what she was chosen by her peers to do, which is use her vast experience and strategize, instead of going Clint Eastwood on Dear Leader.

She is going lead and make the hard decisions, and those who say that she's "unlikeable" or "weak and afraid" when she doesn't make them happy are unfortunately going to be left to stew in their own juice while she does her damn job.

Frustrating, with Mueller gone for new crimes Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #1
When did Pelosi take impeachment off the table? SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #4
Remember her statement Bettie Apr 2019 #8
And she is right SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #10
Ugh Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #33
When Pelosi said that, she anticipated that we would have the Mueller report in hand... Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #83
Let me ask you something... SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #84
You know what? Ligyron Apr 2019 #85
+1,000,000 Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Apr 2019 #17
That's what I was getting at. SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #19
Replied to the wrong post! ehrnst Apr 2019 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Apr 2019 #20
You mean "Until there is hard evidence of a crime and bi-partisan support?" ehrnst Apr 2019 #21
Impeachment will only be symbolic Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2019 #28
I agree .. symbolic ...right against wrong Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #34
I understand your point Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2019 #49
Not getting impeached is a victory to him. Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #55
Fight Fascists b/c they're Fascists suegeo Apr 2019 #58
I agree that we need to fight Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2019 #63
It's about right and wrong Sugarcoated Apr 2019 #65
And the right thing is what helps the most people now, and in the long run ehrnst Apr 2019 #68
Democrats should do the right thing no matter what Sugarcoated Apr 2019 #88
Democrats also have to prioritize, because there are limited resources. "Right" isn't always clear. ehrnst Apr 2019 #89
It's not complicated. Trump broke many laws and committed shocking abuses of power Sugarcoated Apr 2019 #90
Not really. We pick a fight that we KNOW he will win ehrnst Apr 2019 #69
The Mueller Report hasn't dropped in toto jmowreader Apr 2019 #71
Everything he is getting away with ScratchCat Apr 2019 #2
Really? The economy is pretty Good for most people? Farmer-Rick Apr 2019 #16
Yeh, really! ScratchCat Apr 2019 #18
Historically, you're correct. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2019 #22
Your eyeball sees all Farmer-Rick Apr 2019 #32
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #59
If the Court decides to kill the ACA True Blue American Apr 2019 #60
They're not jiggling the numbers NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #74
IIRC the deficit was 234 billion in February alone (for example*) stopwastingmymoney Apr 2019 #91
He is getting away with stuff because he hates who the GOP base hates, so GOP Senators ehrnst Apr 2019 #24
so you agree with me now? that impeachment or any measure will Kurt V. Apr 2019 #40
When did we disagree? ehrnst Apr 2019 #57
his ability to ' get away with it and gop's ability to force compromise to get him and they off is certainot Apr 2019 #29
Strange then how businesses are closing around here all over the place. defacto7 Apr 2019 #31
It's time for the UN Soxfan58 Apr 2019 #3
Curious...why doesn't Congress appropriate funds Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #5
They did. Horse with no Name Apr 2019 #7
I knew that...thought there was more needed Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #36
When one doesn't understand the workings of funding and of congress and the constitution ehrnst Apr 2019 #47
Snark aside, the humanitarian crisis, in my view, Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #52
So, what's the process for appropriating more money? What is the timeline on that, and where ehrnst Apr 2019 #61
I don't think I have ever gotten a more rude and condescending post. Congrats ! Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #64
Can't answer? ehrnst Apr 2019 #67
Hang in there. Mean people suck. nt Atticus Apr 2019 #75
I find it funny when fescuerescue Apr 2019 #77
Thanks ! You made me laugh ! Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #86
Welcome to the club. Just don't give it any KPN Apr 2019 #80
Trying not to. 90% of the people, like you, are nice here. Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #87
Dotard would veto it treestar Apr 2019 #14
He wants funds for a wall. You don't seem to have much faith in Congressional Democrats ehrnst Apr 2019 #26
What? How'd you get that? Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #37
Your posts. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #46
The republicans and white nationalists have made the border their personal plaything. Initech Apr 2019 #6
This is the traitor and this is the hill they plan to fight and die on if necessary. Texin Apr 2019 #9
For those believing the species is not doomed, read up on "Mass Extinctions"... Moostache Apr 2019 #56
I saw that too, but when Trump left, the border agents started asking questions.... SKKY Apr 2019 #11
he's not worth it NJCher Apr 2019 #12
Yep. He won't be removed because the Senate GOP won't vote for it, and he can say ehrnst Apr 2019 #27
I guess this country isn't worth it, either. Paladin Apr 2019 #30
Well stated !! +1 Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #38
two years is nuthin' NJCher Apr 2019 #72
He is testing treestar Apr 2019 #13
Who are you saying is "allowing" this? Not anyone who voted Democratic in 2016 and 2018... ehrnst Apr 2019 #15
100% disagree with this mentality of if we do this, he'll Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #41
Who is "doing nothing?" ehrnst Apr 2019 #45
I actually typed a response to this post earlier, but thought it was a little snarky, so I didn't Atticus Apr 2019 #79
The reality marieo1 Apr 2019 #25
Would rather live with one year of pence than Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #42
+1000. (nt) Paladin Apr 2019 #48
Thank you! shanti Apr 2019 #50
He seems very weak to me. Like if it all came Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #53
Good question. For me, the underlying fundamental answer is indirect. It is not so much about KPN Apr 2019 #39
Sadly, evidently forever unless he murders someone. Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #43
He already has multiple times -- indirectly at KPN Apr 2019 #44
Republicans will allow anything. If he raped somebody raccoon Apr 2019 #51
But Susan Collins would be concerned! FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #73
WE have not been a democracy since inauguration. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #54
Agreed. Cetacea Apr 2019 #76
the Legislature and the Justice Department.. stillcool Apr 2019 #62
What can be done? customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #66
I know this will sound like a really dumb question, but Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #70
If Hillary Clinton had won the election Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #78
Are they obeying those illegal orders? nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #81
Apparently not. Several told their superiors what Trump had said to them as soon as he left Atticus Apr 2019 #82
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