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41. I'm not sure I get the point there

Sun Apr 14, 2019, 07:25 AM

Apr 2019

But it sure sounds like it’s a better argument than pretending that impeachment didn’t actually hurt republicans.

It’s also worth noting that the next election wasn’t good at all for republican senators who voted for conviction. Republicans had been on a winning streak in the senate (with ‘88 being the last election that they had lost even a single seat)... yet they lost four. And that despite theoretically winning the White House. Democrats actually took back control of the Senate for a short time.

You can reasonably argue differences between the two cases, but not that impeachment wasn’t a disaster for republicans. It would be a risky move with almost zero chance of removing him.

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I trust Pelosi but I'm ready for impeachment to start. [View all] California_Republic Apr 2019 OP

Me too! vlyons Apr 2019 #1

Impeaching Barr would be a good start. appal_jack Apr 2019 #13

He shouldn't be allowed to go further. Our democracy is in peril , we must fight for it. notdarkyet Apr 2019 #27

I don't think she will do it, and I agree with her. marylandblue Apr 2019 #2

I have to agree. athena Apr 2019 #5

Alas 2016 has come and gone vlyons Apr 2019 #15

With only 18 months to next election, impeachment is at140 Apr 2019 #6

So the Russians helped him last time but wont this time? Taking impeachment off the table makes uponit7771 Apr 2019 #10

Russia collusion will fade away after at140 Apr 2019 #19

Yes the Russians do care who wins IE they helped Red Don last time why would they uponit7771 Apr 2019 #33

Russia even interferes in the largest democracy in the world, at140 Apr 2019 #53

Why would they? fescuerescue Apr 2019 #37

Russia has been meddling in elections since 1947 at140 Apr 2019 #54

we can walk and chew gum at the same time. She feels safe with him in office, I don't uponit7771 Apr 2019 #9

But we can't pat our heads and rub our stomachs at the same time. marylandblue Apr 2019 #14

Only if dems make it 24/7 media circus, they can just refuse to participate in the circus and ask uponit7771 Apr 2019 #16

Democrats don't control media. JI7 Apr 2019 #22

True, they control their mouths and they can keep them shut not to feed the MSM uponit7771 Apr 2019 #34

So we are going to impeach him secret? You don't think people will notice and ask a few questions? marylandblue Apr 2019 #38

Yes. If we can remove him from office before the end of his term, Hortensis Apr 2019 #12

So basically we elect kings for 4 years now ?! No, republicans wouldn't hesitate to impeach and the uponit7771 Apr 2019 #17

That's not quite the right measure FBaggins Apr 2019 #31

Red Don will never be as popular to Democrats as Clinton was to Republicans uponit7771 Apr 2019 #35

I'm not sure I get the point there FBaggins Apr 2019 #41

Impeachment hurt republicans cause Clinton was waaaay more popular with republicans than ... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #44

That's merely an argument that it wouldn't be as bad FBaggins Apr 2019 #45

Any argument would mean "not as bad" seeing even a successful impeachment would uponit7771 Apr 2019 #46

The Constituon can't wait until 2020 Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #36

We have a moral imperative. To do what will work, not what makes us feel good. marylandblue Apr 2019 #39

You assume what is true now will always be so Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #49

We all make assumptions. You assume this is like Watergate or Pearl Harbor. marylandblue Apr 2019 #51

Watch for the Senate to Wellstone ruled Apr 2019 #3

Where are the waves? GOP senate has Judges nominated by tRump at140 Apr 2019 #7

It is all about getting reelected. Wellstone ruled Apr 2019 #8

Wait winetourdriver01 Apr 2019 #4

If there was no Russians to help Red Don and we were garrunteed a win this would make sense... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #11

Would Repubs impeach under the same circumstances? kentuck Apr 2019 #18

look weak to who ? that problem is large numbers of white people support Trump JI7 Apr 2019 #21

are you ready for the Senate to not Convict ? JI7 Apr 2019 #20

They impeachment proceedings will need to get his taxes and the mueller report California_Republic Apr 2019 #24

and ? you are ready for Senate to not convict ? JI7 Apr 2019 #26

Impeachment is a scream of incoherent rage. Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #28

Gop and many dems are acting like they know Trump has a way through this. nt wiggs Apr 2019 #23

I trust Pelosi AND I'm ready for impeachment to start. (n/t) Iggo Apr 2019 #25

+1 myohmy2 Apr 2019 #29

It's a waste of time and energy while Senate Republicans keep protecting Trump RandySF Apr 2019 #30

Impeachment will never be taken seriously without the Mueller report Takket Apr 2019 #32

She is keeping it off the table. Dazbog Apr 2019 #40

Been ready!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #42

Classic bind: Trumpists increasingly assaulting our democracy, but "impeachment isn't worth it." VOX Apr 2019 #43

my trust in pelosi has dropped tremendously. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #47

The Senate will not convict, so what is the point? cwydro Apr 2019 #48

I'm against impeachment. Calista241 Apr 2019 #50

Timing is crucial for impeachment. I trust Pelosi-Schumer in their sense of timing. empedocles Apr 2019 #52