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24. Agree with you that it is not necessary to hit people over the head with hyperbole. . .
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 03:37 PM
Apr 2019

. . . Not when we actually occupy the higher ground.

At no point did the unfortunate Republican from Oklahoma actually "Declare" rape to be the will of God. His responses were intended to convey that general idea that (his) God is in charge of everything and that even bad things are allowed to happen because God allows it or tacitly "wills" it.

A person can offer a critique of the choice of wording in the OP's title thread without tacitly approving of the Oklahoma legislator's belief system or insinuating that rape isn't a serious concern.

For the record, I think that the "God wills everything good or bad belief" system is dangerous and I also know that other people with more liberal political beliefs who still lean towards magical thinking espouse a similar line of reasoning. (If you can call it that.)

Some people believe in the "Law of Attraction". Others will state that "The Universe is unfolding as it should." Bible-believers subscribe to the idea in Romans 8:28 "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose", for themselves and can point to a host of other verses that basically mean that if it happened, then it is God's Will.

People who think like that are not only a serious threat (no hyperbole needed) to women's reproductive rights but also to the well-being and progress of the human race at large. They see everything through the prism of a book that posits absolutes and that has -- in essence-- already recorded the end of the world.

Even when such people promote policies that seem to be directed to helping people in the here and now, they have one foot in the Biblical agenda. That particular stripe of Christian is the sort that should be questioned about "dual loyalty", not Muslim Americans or Jewish Americans or Catholic Americans such as JFK.

To address the point that legislator doesn't think that rape is a crime, it needs to be understood that the Bible treats rape as a crime against property, not a woman's personhood. Furthermore, the real danger is that--with the passage of some sorts of laws-- a rapist could claim parental rights of a sort over the outcome of his violent attack on someone. I want to believe that an outcome like this is also a ridiculous hyperbolic alarm. Unfortunately, laws granting legal personhood to a fertilized egg and DNA technology could lead us in that direction.

Let's just cross our fingers that I am being absurd.

Only to people who have a "GOD Complex." Which still makes it a crime. TheBlackAdder Apr 2019 #1
If I kicked his ass for saying that, would it be the will of God, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #2
Yes it is!! atreides1 Apr 2019 #31
In this instance "God" equals "White Male Patriarchy" ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #3
To be clear, he's saying that a ... Whiskeytide Apr 2019 #4
Most of the people who use this kind of language Bettie Apr 2019 #6
Agreed. He probably does believe ... Whiskeytide Apr 2019 #7
We need to jump up and down and scream this out. Lochloosa Apr 2019 #9
But scream it correctly. What he said is ... Whiskeytide Apr 2019 #11
I'm reasonbly certain he's one of those "man can't rape his wife" types... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #15
To be clear he actually DID say rape is the will of "god" Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #10
You need to understand that ... Whiskeytide Apr 2019 #14
I am merely correcting your assertion that he did not say rape is the will of god. It's exactly what Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #17
I'll agree that his words said it that way. And ... Whiskeytide Apr 2019 #37
Agree with you that it is not necessary to hit people over the head with hyperbole. . . Collimator Apr 2019 #24
If a pregnancy is the will of God, then so is the act that caused it. Crunchy Frog Apr 2019 #13
Plus he actually DID say the "activity" of rape IS the will of god. Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #18
I hold that his god does not "will" half the world's god-given free will to submit to another's. ancianita Apr 2019 #28
Will of god Traildogbob Apr 2019 #34
Never mind Texas Traildogbob Apr 2019 #35
This is from March 2017... NewDayOranges Apr 2019 #5
This article is 2 years old OKNancy Apr 2019 #8
Is he gone? Because if he's not, he's still a danger. Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #12
He's been gone for six years. nt Mrs. Ted Nancy Apr 2019 #25
Rape is an assault upon a Ilsa Apr 2019 #16
Self deleted. marble falls Apr 2019 #19
Then a woman who murders her rapist, PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #20
It's a "Reality" snort Apr 2019 #21
Ohio lawmaker seeks change: In some cases 'it's legal to rape your spouse' irisblue Apr 2019 #22
The Slippery Slope Of Christianity DallasNE Apr 2019 #23
So the guy below charged with 100 counts is blessed, right? rzemanfl Apr 2019 #26
Something tells me this ass has never read the Bible, he has others interpret it for him Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #27
There is no way I BillyBobBrilliant Apr 2019 #29
It is sad that this POS has two sons and a daughter. What a scumbag! IrishEyes Apr 2019 #30
This is 'classic Calvinist predestination'. Ie, everything that happens is pre-planned by bobbieinok Apr 2019 #32
Translation: this fucknut is guilty of rape. nt Lucky Luciano Apr 2019 #33
Once again, here's the Christian teaching: the Father/God/Source doesn't leave its Karadeniz Apr 2019 #36
Ah, the expert witness who eluded the Crosby trial . . . . . . no_hypocrisy Apr 2019 #38
So, who exactly is an example of how well forcing a woman to carry her rapists beby world wide wally Apr 2019 #39
Which god would that be, *hole? Certainly not mine. Hekate Apr 2019 #40
Rick Santorum to Rape Victims: Make the Best out of a Bad Situation IcyPeas Apr 2019 #41
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