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In reply to the discussion: David Frum says Congress "could abolish the IRS tomorrow." [View all]dumbcat
(2,120 posts)19. And says absolutely nothing about the IRS
the Treasury Dept., the mechanics of collecting taxes, nor administering such matters.
Further, the 16th Amendment, which specifically authorized the income tax, states:
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
Again, absolutely no mention, and no power, over whatever agency the Executive Branch was to come up with to implement it.
Yes, an Act of Congress created the Treasury Dept. Duh! Every Executive Dept was created by an Act of Congress. And NO, that's not why the Senate (not the Congress) can confirm or not confirm the Treasury Secretary. That power is specifically in the Constitution and applies to almost all Executive departments via The Appointments Clause, Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution.
I think I am done discussing the Constitution with you.
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Of course it would take time to pass legislation. But Frum is pointing out that the IRS
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#12
You're missing the point, which is that Congress, according to the Constitution,
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#13
Article I, Section 8 vests all taxing power in Congress. Also, the Department of the
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#16
If Congress sent Trump a bill abolishing the IRS, Trump would sign it in an instant
jmowreader
Apr 2019
#25
I wonder if the Dems might consider just filing for a writ of mandamus. Does anyone know of any
alwaysinasnit
Apr 2019
#23
I don't believe tRump would have any direct power to wipe his ass with it. If it is filed in
alwaysinasnit
Apr 2019
#30
They should abolish it. 3 Flat taxes and a sales tax is the only way to raise the amounts we need.
oldsoftie
Apr 2019
#26
Thats why i said THREE levels of it. And those other developed countries also use a sales tax.
oldsoftie
Apr 2019
#33
Well, its flat in that there are no write offs, shelters, etc. Easy to do your taxes.
oldsoftie
Apr 2019
#35