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oldsoftie

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33. Thats why i said THREE levels of it. And those other developed countries also use a sales tax.

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 08:27 AM

Apr 2019

Nothing proposed by any of the candidates so far will raise nearly enough money to pay for the programs we all discuss here. Nothing. We see huge numbers followed by "over 10 yrs". we all know any projection of income or savings over 10 yrs NEVER materializes as projected. We know how big our economy is, so we'd know pretty close what a sales tax would bring in.
Not to mention finally taxing all the hidden income from millions of workers.

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David Frum says Congress "could abolish the IRS tomorrow." [View all] pnwmom Apr 2019 OP

Article I, Section 8 vests all taxing power in Congress. elleng Apr 2019 #1

Surely that's irrelevant, as Congress is split ? OnDoutside Apr 2019 #2

Just how do you think Congress could abolish it tomorrow? dumbcat Apr 2019 #4

Ask Frum. elleng Apr 2019 #5

No. I'm asking you dumbcat Apr 2019 #8

Of course it would take time to pass legislation. But Frum is pointing out that the IRS pnwmom Apr 2019 #12

dude.... paleotn Apr 2019 #20

I give up dumbcat Apr 2019 #24

In my mind paleotn Apr 2019 #29

How could they do that dumbcat Apr 2019 #3

I don't think he meant in this political climate SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #7

I didn't get that caveat dumbcat Apr 2019 #10

Right. Congress is in charge of the IRS, not the other way around. pnwmom Apr 2019 #14

You're missing the point, which is that Congress, according to the Constitution, pnwmom Apr 2019 #13

No, it's not dumbcat Apr 2019 #15

Article I, Section 8 vests all taxing power in Congress. Also, the Department of the pnwmom Apr 2019 #16

And says absolutely nothing about the IRS dumbcat Apr 2019 #19

...... paleotn Apr 2019 #22

It's not the point, but... Trump would not veto the end of the IRS. thesquanderer Apr 2019 #18

[Sigh] dumbcat Apr 2019 #21

re: "Congress has the authority to un-create anything it created. " thesquanderer Apr 2019 #31

If Congress sent Trump a bill abolishing the IRS, Trump would sign it in an instant jmowreader Apr 2019 #25

If Chump does this, our economy will collapse overnight FakeNoose Apr 2019 #6

go back and read the OP.... it isn't meant literally Takket Apr 2019 #9

No harm done, I didn't mean it either FakeNoose Apr 2019 #11

Moscow Mitch won't let that happen. nt madinmaryland Apr 2019 #17

I wonder if the Dems might consider just filing for a writ of mandamus. Does anyone know of any alwaysinasnit Apr 2019 #23

Trump would simply wipe his ass on it and send it back jmowreader Apr 2019 #28

I don't believe tRump would have any direct power to wipe his ass with it. If it is filed in alwaysinasnit Apr 2019 #30

They should abolish it. 3 Flat taxes and a sales tax is the only way to raise the amounts we need. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #26

That's been a Republican pipe dream for decades. procon Apr 2019 #32

Thats why i said THREE levels of it. And those other developed countries also use a sales tax. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #33

If you have three "levels" then it's not flat. brooklynite Apr 2019 #34

Well, its flat in that there are no write offs, shelters, etc. Easy to do your taxes. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #35

This is the problem I have with conservatives... brooklynite Apr 2019 #36

Well, its 3, not 10. Thats much easier! But thats what i've got. What do you think should be done? oldsoftie Apr 2019 #37

How much from these motherfuckers is America going to take? spanone Apr 2019 #27