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Conviction and removal from office requires bipartisanship. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #1
The impeachment process SHRED Apr 2019 #3
I agree with you Shred.... Pachamama Apr 2019 #29
Not sure what would happen after the House votes NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #106
removal from office is not the necessary goal here and now Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #11
Agree, swaying the public opinion by getting the truth out onetexan Apr 2019 #61
+1, lying to congress during impeachment process nets greater consequences than just a slap on hand uponit7771 Apr 2019 #64
+100. Democracy is NOT worthless, and its processes Hortensis Apr 2019 #35
Then don't move for conviction or removal, use impeachment to stop the stone walling & lying uponit7771 Apr 2019 #45
To what end...Speaker Pelosi can count votes. There may not AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #2
Impeachment process negates KGOP stonewalling and ability to lock folk up who lie to congress uponit7771 Apr 2019 #22
No, it doesn't. The SENATE would control the trial. Hortensis Apr 2019 #42
This is false on its face, and we don't have to move to convict or for removal. I don't know uponit7771 Apr 2019 #43
So, impeachment as a shit-kicking exercise? Hortensis Apr 2019 #50
No, just harder for KGOP to stonewall and lie to congress without consequences uponit7771 Apr 2019 #52
Tiny payoff at best, huge costs, but gotcha. Hortensis Apr 2019 #55
I disagree the pay off is tiny, sending these bastards to jail for lying to congress after .... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #57
You're wrong on how the trial is conducted in the Senate. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #108
That's right, thanks for pointing it out. Rehnquist presided. Hortensis Apr 2019 #110
Ambien. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #111
This is why Democrats don't vote, watoos Apr 2019 #4
You've got to fight SHRED Apr 2019 #6
the perception of weakness kills any momentum! Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #13
At this point in time we offer almost no resistance to Trump Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #78
true that Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #89
So what do you think the difference is between Schiff chairing inquiries Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #94
It would probably help to stop announcing things as "failed" before they happen Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #100
Of course there would be enough votes in the House with our majority. Nevermypresident Apr 2019 #5
Yeah, god forbid we have a divided country SHRED Apr 2019 #7
Hurray! well said. nt Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #14
+1000000 Pachamama Apr 2019 #33
+1, 80% of Americans want to see the Full Mueller Report 90% of KGOPs want to hide it uponit7771 Apr 2019 #41
A good rule to follow is to do the right thing. If a president is corrupt, destroys departments Karadeniz Apr 2019 #8
Yep SHRED Apr 2019 #9
Exactly. Unfortunately, too many people are scared about shit that might never happen. mtnsnake Apr 2019 #20
+1, Red Don will never even be as popular with democrats as Clinton was with indies and republicans uponit7771 Apr 2019 #65
"The math" is the end goal, not the requirement for starting impeachment. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #10
It's not really known if they have the votes in the House, too loyalsister Apr 2019 #109
So, you'll like to lose the Presidential Election? brooklynite Apr 2019 #12
How many times must we explain "strategy" to you? Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #15
Actually, Brooklynite is right. ehrnst Apr 2019 #17
As many times as access to process to be explained to you ... you've been busy, hmmmmm uponit7771 Apr 2019 #24
As have you. ehrnst Apr 2019 #67
If I'm wrong, so is Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff... brooklynite Apr 2019 #18
Then so be it! n/t mtnsnake Apr 2019 #19
Only Pelosi is adding the requirement of bipartisanship uponit7771 Apr 2019 #26
"Only" Pelosi? Is there more than one Pelosi in the Housr? FBaggins Apr 2019 #66
Of course she's not alone, I don't think she has 100% agreement though and the case uponit7771 Apr 2019 #69
The point is that you're missing the clear implication FBaggins Apr 2019 #71
This is false, we do have the votes to impeach. We don't have the votes to convict and remove ... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #82
Journalists, authors , teevee ppl. and yes bloggers (but not anonymous) also say you're wrong. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #36
+1, hinging impeachment off of bipartisanship isn't a reasonable goal when the KGOP has a mouth uponit7771 Apr 2019 #38
Bipartisanship is not possible with the Republican Party Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #112
There's no factual evidence for this. Red Don will never be as popular with democrats as Clinton was uponit7771 Apr 2019 #23
Gore lost RandiFan1290 Apr 2019 #46
+1, the arguments against impeachment are starting sound like BS at this point. Red Don will never uponit7771 Apr 2019 #53
As somebody who knows better, I actually do have some serious questions about impeachment Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #86
Answer: yes brooklynite Apr 2019 #96
So basically a borderline "October Surprise" moment, but nothing mechanical? Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #97
Wrong Buffalo Soldier Apr 2019 #105
Do you know how we "went big" in 2018? brooklynite Apr 2019 #107
Well, if he's not removed, he gets to say "I was completely exonerated from that witch hunt." ehrnst Apr 2019 #16
And THAT reason, above all others, is why Pelosi is right DFW Apr 2019 #25
They'll crow even if Red Don is taken out of the white house like Assange !! When has reality ever uponit7771 Apr 2019 #30
If reality mattered to them, they wouldn't be voting for him in the first place n/t DFW Apr 2019 #37
So, Red Don will crow no matter what ... nothing is going to stop that. Red Don crowing is not uponit7771 Apr 2019 #40
He can't crow that he beat impeachment if he hasn't been impeached. DFW Apr 2019 #47
YES HE CAN !! When has reality ever stopped him !? We're not dealing with a sane person here uponit7771 Apr 2019 #48
Per se, agreed, however, he isn't the only one running in the next election DFW Apr 2019 #54
Red Don will NEVER EVER be as popular with democrats as Clinton was with republicans at that time uponit7771 Apr 2019 #62
Doesn't matter. His fans will not change their minds, and their Senators know it. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #76
Not to mention, it's just not gonna happen. bearsfootball516 Apr 2019 #77
LOL ... I'd like to hear a 2020 candidate say this and expect to win the primary. If Red Don broke uponit7771 Apr 2019 #80
I'd love for him to be impeached. Still not gonna happen. bearsfootball516 Apr 2019 #84
I still believe in more pressure from the people more better. Again, the first candidate that relays uponit7771 Apr 2019 #85
With Moore having a great poll, Jones has a tenuous path to reelection in Alabama Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #88
We can impeach and not convict or remove to get the KGOP to stop stonewalling. That's the point uponit7771 Apr 2019 #91
When it's more productive than simple Congressional inquiries. Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #92
His fans are irrelevant and always have been uponit7771 Apr 2019 #79
They are relevant to what the GOP Senate majority will and will not do. ehrnst Apr 2019 #95
He gets to say that even if he's dragged out of office like Assange, facts have never mattered to... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #27
Frankly, trump will always continue his gaslighting by saying "I was completely exonerated from Nevermypresident Apr 2019 #75
I don't have any Democratic Senators or a Congressman. Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #93
Democrats shouldn't worry about impeachment dividing the country Poiuyt Apr 2019 #21
We're not at all worried about that. DFW Apr 2019 #28
He's already got that ammunition now. We can impeach and not convict or move for removal the point uponit7771 Apr 2019 #32
+100000 Pachamama Apr 2019 #39
Yep, to mitigate the stonewalling is worth impeachment in and of itself. Democrats would have to ... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #44
The Russians are even more emboldened now than ever..... Pachamama Apr 2019 #56
+1, and Russia is infesting the KGOP with tons of cash. There's no reason to believe they're uponit7771 Apr 2019 #59
I agree that it is time to start the impeachment process mnhtnbb Apr 2019 #31
Same here, those against impeachment aren't giving reasoning based on good logic and some are uponit7771 Apr 2019 #34
If they lie or stonewall during the impeachment process with the current "Justice" Department DFW Apr 2019 #49
Impeach Barr too, then vote to convict Barr for OoJ but don't move for removal. uponit7771 Apr 2019 #51
Agree, time to start the impeachment process. DLevine Apr 2019 #58
Depends on the goal... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #60
Trump will make up a win even if he's dragged out of office like Assange. Red Don is not sane uponit7771 Apr 2019 #63
The real reason is that an impeachment vote would probably fail and leave Trump emboldened. Oneironaut Apr 2019 #68
Red Don says he's fully exonerated now so he's already emboldened. We're not talking about ... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #70
I would say the problem isn't his response, but the public perception. Oneironaut Apr 2019 #73
Then don't move to convict, that simple. The point of impeachment is to reduce the OoJ & stonewallin uponit7771 Apr 2019 #81
Imo, it would be decried as a political stunt, then. Oneironaut Apr 2019 #87
Impeachment is used to stop the stonewalling not get Red Don removed and dems can make that clear uponit7771 Apr 2019 #90
Problem is, if you do that and then find nothing, it would be awful for the Democrats. Oneironaut Apr 2019 #98
How would it be awful ? Thx in advance uponit7771 Apr 2019 #99
Because it will look like we went in fishing for evidence and found nothing. Oneironaut Apr 2019 #102
Right now Trump is claiming that he is exonorated, watoos Apr 2019 #72
THIS !! The case against impeachment is falling apart once people know the facts. Red Don will never uponit7771 Apr 2019 #83
If the Repubs cannot find the "bi-partisanship" to help release the Mueller Report? kentuck Apr 2019 #74
agree EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #101
Recommended. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #103
I agree. Democrats should stand up for the rule of law and the Constitition. KPN Apr 2019 #104
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