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In reply to the discussion: "libertarianism" [View all]vlyons
(10,252 posts)30. I too reject libertarianism
Your reasons for rejecting it are not very helpful, because they don't explain what libertarian values are in the first place. You are correct in identifying the values of Ayn Rand's "Virtue of Selfishness" as a great motivating factor for libertarians. Libertarians would like to do away with as much gov as possible, except may the military, do away with taxes, and base wealth on the gold standard. Privatize everything that isn't nailed down. So you need a fire dept to save your house, if you aren't a subscriber of that service, too bad, Want to drive any where? Pay a toll for every mile you drive.
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libertarianism, like republicanism, sounds more like a mental disease than anything else. nt
DirtEdonE
Apr 2019
#10
Wrong. Greedy objectivists don't care about downstream because they are not libertarians.
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2019
#9
I seem to have struck a discord with your unflailing "libertarian" mental miasma
DirtEdonE
Apr 2019
#20
My "mental miasma", huh. And "discord" does not mean what you think it does. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2019
#21
You are trolling. You are wrong. The character specifically states in the novel he is NOT a Randite.
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2019
#40
It's not disagreement. It's the WAY you disagree. DU members will read & know. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2019
#42
The OP completely misunderstands libertarianism, sets up straw man and knocks it down with fallacies
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2019
#4
You're right-- the two are often confused but libertarianism is all about freedom of thought...
TreasonousBastard
Apr 2019
#12
"libertarians" in America today have as much to do with their pure philosophy
DirtEdonE
Apr 2019
#16
Many who call themselves libertarian have, but that's no reason to...
TreasonousBastard
Apr 2019
#19
Two wrongs don't make a right. Stop spreading the disinformation. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2019
#32
I'm not defending Ayn Rand, as all readers here can see. You are just trolling. Stop. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2019
#37
Yes, many self-styled Libertarians are not libertarians (small ell). . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2019
#18