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marylandblue

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12. And as I've noted previously, this is not 1998 and Trump isn't Clinton
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:20 PM
Apr 2019

There is no American historical precedent for our situation so quit trying to look for it. We are in a situation where almost the entire Republican Party and a large percentage of the American people live in a totally different reality where no evidence of wrongdoing is likely to reach them. When this happens in other countries, it leads to authoritarianism. Based on books like "What is Populism" and "How Democracies Die" the institutions we rely.on to protect us stop functioning and direct assaults like impeachment are often ineffective.

I'm not totally against impeachment at this point, but we really need to be aware of where the real danger is and deal with that. The danger is in our fellow citizens and the Republican Party who will continue down the authoritarian path with or without Trump.

Old poll Dan Apr 2019 #1
The senate will not convict Cosmocat Apr 2019 #2
Lay out your logic. How will it hurt if the Senate is proven to be traitorous cowards? maxsolomon Apr 2019 #3
Exactly Blecht Apr 2019 #15
Proving my point Cosmocat Apr 2019 #16
Cynical conjecture. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #19
He could (and would) certainly try. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #20
In other words, we should impeach this President even if it costs us control of the House and, marylandblue Apr 2019 #5
how will it do that? maxsolomon Apr 2019 #11
And as I've noted previously, this is not 1998 and Trump isn't Clinton marylandblue Apr 2019 #12
Of course there's risk. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #13
YES, Dan Apr 2019 #14
I mentioned more than just losing the House. marylandblue Apr 2019 #17
I understand what you are saying Dan Apr 2019 #18
If you think I'm talking about a "narrow win-win" then you don't understand what I am saying. nt marylandblue Apr 2019 #21
Sorry, Dan Apr 2019 #22
Lucky congress didn't use that criteria during the Nixon years. triron Apr 2019 #6
"a poll should not determine whether or not Congress impeaches the president" TwilightZone Apr 2019 #8
If you don't impeach TheRealNorth Apr 2019 #23
Why post a poll from more than a month ago? Also, so what if Senate wont convict or remove? tia uponit7771 Apr 2019 #4
Newer polls. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #7
40% for / 42% against as of today snpsmom Apr 2019 #9
Yep, just saw that. Thanks. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #10
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