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Hortensis

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7. It is. Reportedly they don't feel they were able to build a

Reply to garybeck (Original post)

Sat Apr 20, 2019, 04:24 AM

Apr 2019

strong legal case beyond a reasonable doubt. The report does not say there was no collusion. And no matter how often much of the MSM says it did, it didn't.

It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. ~ Alonzo Harris

But, of course congress doesn't need either DoJ indictment or the level of proof required for the DoJ to prosecute; it only needs enough Republican senators to decide to cooperate with removal for any of 100 causes, conspiracy included.

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I don't understand why this is not collusion/conspiracy. [View all] garybeck Apr 2019 OP

Collusion has no legal meaning kennetha Apr 2019 #1

Exactly. ... spin Apr 2019 #2

I know that. That is not my question garybeck Apr 2019 #5

Because to prove the legal crime of conspiracy requires certain elements, pnwmom Apr 2019 #14

Barr and Mueller are using a definition of coordination that requires proof of an agreement Poiuyt Apr 2019 #3

Exactly. And since when is ignorance of the law a defense? SunSeeker Apr 2019 #4

Ok then garybeck Apr 2019 #6

What statute are you relying on? pnwmom Apr 2019 #8

how do you define "agreement"? garybeck Apr 2019 #10

I agree that there WAS COLLUSION. But collusion isn't the same as having the required elements pnwmom Apr 2019 #13

It is. Reportedly they don't feel they were able to build a Hortensis Apr 2019 #7

ok, i stilll don't get it garybeck Apr 2019 #9

I don't know how much more, either, but a team of some of Hortensis Apr 2019 #11

Conspiracy has to be an effort by two or more to violate the law. former9thward Apr 2019 #12

Right. It certainly seems suspicious, but they couldn't PROVE corrupt intent. pnwmom Apr 2019 #15

Though considering that it's Paul Manafort we're talking about... NacLeeFF Apr 2019 #18

They didn't have enough to provide conviction. Neoma Apr 2019 #16

One of the big issues was not being able to interview Trump himself. NacLeeFF Apr 2019 #17

I didn't think Mueller wanted to interview Trump. Neoma Apr 2019 #19