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15. The BIG question: Is the 2020 election a sure thing for Democrats?
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 06:46 PM
Apr 2019

Common sense dictates “yes,” but common sense took an extended hike in 2016 and hasn’t been seen since. There is a number of variables stacking up, far broader than usual, all due to Trump and his unshakable loyalists:
-Will the 2020 election be free and fair? Will it even occur?
-What form and degree will Russian interference take place? (Because it’s the one certainty.) There are rumblings about China and other countries getting in on the act as well.
-Can Democrats come up with a strong, broad-appeal candidate who can beat Trump in the usual “battleground” states, which is where the 2020 election will be decided, as lousy as that is.

It pains me deeply to say it, but I no longer have faith in the American people to do the right thing. Thus, there is a chance that Trump could be re-elected, if he gets the same lucky bounces he did in 2016. That’s a scenario that spells doom for democracy.

All of which is why I’ve come to favor impeachment proceedings. A popular talking point asks, “Why impeach when there’s no chance for a conviction?” Because conviction should not be the immediate goal. Rather, the focus should be on enumerating the lawbreaking, and repeating that message to the citizenry. What’s important to illustrate to the American people is that NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. Without the rule of law, there is chaos (as we’ve seen for two-plus years), and chaos is an open invitation to authoritarianism— R.I.P. America.

Save our democracy: IMPEACH NOW.

One or the other of these: elleng Apr 2019 #1
Well spoken! We must play the long game Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #6
Because if law and morality were the issue, impeachment would be done by the Supreme Court. marylandblue Apr 2019 #2
No, SCOTUS is not an investigative body, which Congress is. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #18
"high crimes and misdemeanors" is a term of art from the British Parliament marylandblue Apr 2019 #19
Playing 5th dimensional chess is why Democrats lose. qdouble Apr 2019 #3
But we are not loosing. The momentum is on our side! Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #7
That must be why there was a blue wave in 2018. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #9
Trump being unpopular had a lot to do with it. qdouble Apr 2019 #11
I don't know...but I think.. stillcool Apr 2019 #4
Political calculation dumbcat Apr 2019 #5
The timing is what is in question nini Apr 2019 #8
Impeachment in the House doesn't mean removal by the Senate sop Apr 2019 #17
Winning is a politiical act in 20 and we take no risks that could hurt us. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #10
Other than letting the person who's lawyer says "there's nothing wrong with gettin help from Russia" uponit7771 Apr 2019 #20
Investigate like crazy... just don't impeach. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #22
It makes no sense not to impeach, there's no good arguments against it that are clear cut uponit7771 Apr 2019 #23
I'm no fan of Donald Trump either, but WSSlover Apr 2019 #12
I'll take my chances gratuitous Apr 2019 #13
Because it's an inherently political action Codeine Apr 2019 #14
The BIG question: Is the 2020 election a sure thing for Democrats? VOX Apr 2019 #15
Not when Rudy G says "It's OK to get help from Russia" !!! How can we trust that !!! uponit7771 Apr 2019 #21
Because in the real world, it matters what real consequences there are to actions one takes. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #16
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