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SunSeeker

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49. Some people might. You need to put yourself in working parents' shoes.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:37 AM
Apr 2019

Some people might not come out, of course not all, but some, and maybe just enough to help Trump win.

I know folks like you and me can't imagine not getting out to vote, especially to get rid of Trump. But think of folks working 2 jobs, with kids to get to school. They hate Trump too, but voting is an ordeal for them because of how hard Republicans have made voting. In some precincts, it involves hours-long waits. That means losing time (and pay) from work, and/or trying to find childcare for your kids while you're standing in line to vote.

Does it really make no sense to you why some of these beleaguered working parents might just pass on the whole voting ordeal?

Don't you get how some might see it as not worth the ordeal to vote if it looks like their party won't make a difference?

If their party had not at least voted to impeach Trump in the House, which is clearly within the majority Democrats' power, don't you think some people might decide to give up and go to their jobs, thinking what's the point of voting if their party can't get stuff done, that nothing will change in their lives whether they vote or not? Don't you think some people might think if Dems can't get an impeachment vote done, what can they do about much more difficult endeavors, like climate change or healthcare?



What's your plan 'b'? The process is working. marble falls Apr 2019 #1
How is the process working? We don't have the full Mueller Report nor any of the grand jury info. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #4
Its not over, and how did executive privilege work out for RMN? marble falls Apr 2019 #17
Why do we have to keep reminding people trev Apr 2019 #18
Oh I know it's not over, but time is running out. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #20
There's no basis for that assertion. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #2
NO ONE is running on an all-impeachment platform. Our candidates all are pushing great issues. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #7
I'm not talking about our candidates. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #8
I think by refusing to start impeachment proceedings, we could depress Dem turnout. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #13
Why would it depress Dem turnout? Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #26
Because the Dem base wants an impeachment, and may feel their party is not listening to them. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #34
+1, and what sense does it make to leave the guy who welcomed Russian help in the last election uponit7771 Apr 2019 #42
So people who want Trump removed from office Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #44
Some people might. You need to put yourself in working parents' shoes. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #49
So people who hate Trump so much Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #50
You're missing the point. It's not a matter of "hating tRump so much" stopbush Apr 2019 #56
And where is that on the list of issues Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #59
Obama was not running against an incumbent president. stopbush Apr 2019 #62
True Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #63
You have to make people believe voting will make a difference in their lives. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #60
And if they were motivated enough Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #61
If they're disappointed in the folks they busted their ass for in the midterms to fight Trump... SunSeeker Apr 2019 #64
Still makes no sense Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #65
It makes sense not to take our voters for granted. 67% of Democrats want him impeached. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #66
Did you read the poll? Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #68
Did you? SunSeeker Apr 2019 #69
Not strategy but logic Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #70
Insulting someone will not make them come around to your point of view. nt SunSeeker Apr 2019 #71
Not insulting anyone Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #72
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #35
I'm asking a question Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #46
Humans technically detect fake people before they consider fear, FAKE is saying impeachment is on uponit7771 Apr 2019 #41
And humans who passionately want Trump out of office Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #45
So the Red wave is coming and will reelect dump and flip the House/keep the Senate Norbert Apr 2019 #48
Er, any sentence that begins with "if" stopbush Apr 2019 #14
It doesn't require a big swing in the electorate for those two outcomes Awsi Dooger Apr 2019 #24
The anti-impeachers don't have a plan B manor321 Apr 2019 #3
Impeachment fails, Trump gloats, Dems lose! Nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #6
How can impeachment investigation hearings that expose Trump's crimes be a failure? SunSeeker Apr 2019 #12
What is your proof of any of that? Nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #5
"if" doesn't require proof. stopbush Apr 2019 #15
Bill Clinton was impeached, and he enjoyed his best favorables during and after that mess. But ReformedGOPer Apr 2019 #22
And in 2006 won back the House & Senate Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #28
Holding accountable is not what dems do.. SoCalDem Apr 2019 #47
That was their strategy when McConnell held up Obama nominees MurrayDelph Apr 2019 #9
4 years of free range Trump, our nation is finished. sarcasmo Apr 2019 #10
Move somewhere else. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #11
Don't leave us! dawg day Apr 2019 #32
I constantly feel that this must have been what it was like to PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #36
Secession. roamer65 Apr 2019 #16
Many Americans will learn what's its like to be a Refugee. n/t MarcA Apr 2019 #19
Yes. Because when Putin's coup is complete, tRump and his goons will come after his DontBooVote Apr 2019 #23
I have a question.... quickesst Apr 2019 #21
in that case, the US is f'ed, and deserves to be. dawg day Apr 2019 #30
So..... quickesst Apr 2019 #40
Your question asks the question that is already being asked. My OP proposes a different scenario stopbush Apr 2019 #57
Wouldn't your answer to my question.... quickesst Apr 2019 #67
I just don't think it's helpful to worry about all of that now. There's a lot of road to be run UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #25
If we do impeach and we lose the WH and Huse, what then? RandySF Apr 2019 #27
Here's what might happen-- dawg day Apr 2019 #29
I'm immigrating to Canada ASAP. democratisphere Apr 2019 #31
Its too late for impeachment, period. Xolodno Apr 2019 #33
We can only start impeachment in 2021 if Ds hold the House, and that's not guaranteed. stopbush Apr 2019 #58
Best not to engage in these hypotheticals it seems to me. triron Apr 2019 #37
There is no "plan b" if that happens. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2019 #38
Impeachment would have the same impact on Trump Locutusofborg Apr 2019 #39
The supposedly 'Law and Order' Republicans will side with their proven criminal in chief Lock him up. Apr 2019 #43
Moderates gave us the house and would be more endangered by a impeachment. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #51
If the Dems do impeach and the Senate acquits him, what then? Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #52
If Trump wins and the R's take the house in 2020, then we're doing something wrong. Calista241 Apr 2019 #53
Could happen if we do impeach him wryter2000 Apr 2019 #54
If Trump wins the election. stillcool Apr 2019 #55
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