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67. What?
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 01:04 PM
Aug 2012

No, he should be prosecuted for the rape charge because the prosecution has the evidence. Why should he escape any charge for any criminal violation just because he leaked a huge amount of documents?

What is undemocratic about pursuing charges against someone? Anyone could claim there is some other "reason" for any criminal charge!

That is all they are prosecuting. they have not charged him with anything else.

The bait and switch has been debunked over and over and over. The UK is even more likely to extradite to the US than sweden is, and that's where he's been all this time. the US have made no effort to extradite and has no proceedings against him. It's a lie on his part to get his emotional supporters to think he's being persecuted when he is not.

Disappointing. WikiLeaks perpetrating this, I mean. gateley Aug 2012 #1
.... and the demonization of Assange continues... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #2
Be careful... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #12
Oh, no, the only people that give a shit about this are right here. renie408 Aug 2012 #43
....which seems to be Strategy #2.... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #84
If it's a fact... Mmm_Bacon Aug 2012 #58
Wikileaks' "Greatest Hits", are you serious? AntiFascist Aug 2012 #85
well leaking someone's medical records is pretty friggin' demonic. nt arely staircase Aug 2012 #59
Yes, but this is a red herring... girl gone mad Aug 2012 #109
Demonization? He released that fake thing in 2008, and AGAIN when Jobs died. MADem Aug 2012 #101
As I've said elsewhere... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #105
You said "...and the demonization of Assange continues." MADem Aug 2012 #117
and perhaps he does lack character going way back... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #119
If you do go way back, you'll see that he behaved very badly as an adult in his MADem Aug 2012 #123
Romney and Ryan are both high profile public servents... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #129
Assange has been in the public eye since he was a teenager. MADem Aug 2012 #135
So what is your morality point about the film? AntiFascist Aug 2012 #138
I haven't seen it, how can I have a "morality point" about it? MADem Aug 2012 #140
So, anyway, your point seems to be... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #141
No, that's not my point at all. MADem Aug 2012 #146
Your last sentence is clearly wrong... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #158
No, it's not "clearly wrong." MADem Aug 2012 #165
Do people believe that if Assange is a creep, it means the governments he exposed aren't? still_one Aug 2012 #152
If you're equating Assange to Ritter, you are not doing the guy any favors. nt MADem Aug 2012 #169
This is such a strange way to characterize what happened.. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #110
I beg your high-handed pardon? I'm only responding to the accusation of "demonization." MADem Aug 2012 #118
Once again, you are responding emotionally, not dealing in facts or logic. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #120
No, I'm not--I'm responding with facts and you're getting "emotional" over them. MADem Aug 2012 #122
No, those are not the facts. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #124
Now you're just being silly. MADem Aug 2012 #125
Wikileaks never "released" or "re-released" these documents. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #128
Sure they did. They publicized them, and there was a goal behind that. MADem Aug 2012 #136
Is That What Happenned? On the Road Aug 2012 #157
Why should we trust any documents anonymously posted there? pnwmom Aug 2012 #126
Because the important stuff... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #131
So the unredacted diplomatic files that he published without getting them vetted by pnwmom Aug 2012 #134
There are various levels of "publishing"... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #139
Or taking valid documents and altering them JUST enough, and then handing them over... MADem Aug 2012 #170
I hope your paycheck is large. nt Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #3
You Survived A Very Ridiculous Alert! HangOnKids Aug 2012 #4
Umm, aren't you posting secret information? AntiFascist Aug 2012 #6
Results of Alerts are posted everyday on DU HangOnKids Aug 2012 #7
Sorry, just my failed attempt at humor. n/t AntiFascist Aug 2012 #19
I didn't know that. Personally, I think those who are so inclined to post alerts are unprofessional still_one Aug 2012 #164
I'm flattered that you, and your friends (be they real or imaginary), consider my remarks on Assange struggle4progress Aug 2012 #10
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #5
The issue of fakes and forgeries associated with Wikileaks, matters if we call Assange a journalist: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #9
Can you enlighten me as to... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #20
you should start a website devoted to exposing the hidden truth about wikileaks Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #8
It is all readily available information: none of it is hidden struggle4progress Aug 2012 #11
Someone could- of course- expose the inner machinations of that operation, through a site called Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #16
So you think there is something wrong with a person having HIV?? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #77
You do realize that posts like this show that you are obsessed with Wikileaks to the point grantcart Aug 2012 #13
I've taken no stand on the rape charges. Maybe he's innocent. I think Sweden can sort it out fairly. struggle4progress Aug 2012 #15
there ARE NO RAPE CHARGES WillYourVoteBCounted Aug 2012 #61
Two women charged Assange with sexual assault and rape, but no formal charges have been filed: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #74
I believe the legal term you're looking for is "ACCUSED", not "CHARGED". bullwinkle428 Aug 2012 #93
I'm not a lawyer; I'm not in court; and I'm using ordinary English words with ordinary meanings struggle4progress Aug 2012 #94
"No charges have been filed against Julian Assange." WillYourVoteBCounted Aug 2012 #95
I don't intend to try the case on DU: Assange should go to Sweden where he is wanted struggle4progress Aug 2012 #98
Woman AA Destroyed Evidence WillYourVoteBCounted Aug 2012 #96
I don't intend to try the case on DU: Assange should go to Sweden where he is wanted struggle4progress Aug 2012 #99
This went before a prosecutor in 2010 & she dismissed it WillYourVoteBCounted Aug 2012 #97
I don't intend to try the case on DU: Assange should go to Sweden where he is wanted struggle4progress Aug 2012 #100
Yeh...even the comic appeal is wearing thin. nt Zorra Aug 2012 #17
Yeah we passed that point some time back. grantcart Aug 2012 #21
It's a lot of useful stuff to counter the treestar Aug 2012 #24
I couldn't disagree more. I think it undermines more substantial criticisms of Assange/Wikileaks grantcart Aug 2012 #25
The other day Struggle posted a link to a pdf treestar Aug 2012 #32
This would be over in a NY minute if Sweden simply states that they will bring him grantcart Aug 2012 #33
Well again, it is not for Julian to dictate terms treestar Aug 2012 #36
He is not dictating terms he is offering to negotiate. grantcart Aug 2012 #42
Negotiating from a place where he fled the legal system treestar Aug 2012 #47
Again you are arguing that he be prosecuted for a rape charge because of what he did at Wikileaks. grantcart Aug 2012 #57
What? treestar Aug 2012 #67
He has no rights to negotiate, as a fugitive. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #54
Again, what the fuck. grantcart Aug 2012 #56
Um...no. I'm a criminal defense attorney. And I can tell you categorically that msanthrope Aug 2012 #62
Very funny that you would out yourself as a defense attorney grantcart Aug 2012 #65
Um..this case doesn't involve China or the US, nor did Chen face a valid EAW for rape. msanthrope Aug 2012 #70
"out yourself" jberryhill Aug 2012 #76
Quito's London embassy is not "sovereign territory ... of Ecuador" but sovereign territory of the UK struggle4progress Aug 2012 #78
A blind Chinese dissident molested 2 Swedish women in a sexual fashion? MADem Aug 2012 #137
But Sweden can't promise that...it's entirely possible there msanthrope Aug 2012 #40
Promises to extradite for limited prosecution is done all of the time grantcart Aug 2012 #44
That's exactly what they want to do treestar Aug 2012 #49
The fact that you link your general distaste for Assange to the prosecution in Sweden proves grantcart Aug 2012 #55
Quit with the personal attacks about my alleged anger at this person treestar Aug 2012 #66
Yes. If there's an extradition request on the table. Which there isn't. msanthrope Aug 2012 #51
The international extradition law, that applies to Sweden here, has been pointed out again and again struggle4progress Aug 2012 #75
I LMAO at that grant! HangOnKids Aug 2012 #72
What are you saying the OP is fabricating? Are you saying he's incorrect pnwmom Aug 2012 #127
This is a fabrication: girl gone mad Aug 2012 #130
Wikileaks exposed that it was fake! you are right but.... Ichingcarpenter Aug 2012 #132
Why were they posting an image that they suspected was fake? pnwmom Aug 2012 #133
Steve Jobs purported HIV medical status results, 2008 struggle4progress Aug 2012 #160
Oh wow this one is in English! Puregonzo1188 Aug 2012 #14
I have a different take on this.. Cha Aug 2012 #18
Dear Cha, I don't believe that they are informative in the least. grantcart Aug 2012 #22
Sweden has most certainly not indicated plans to extradite Assange to a third country. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #27
Not true. Sweden has indicated that the only condition that would prevent extradition is grantcart Aug 2012 #29
Nonsense. There isn't an extradition request from the US. His lawyers tried that msanthrope Aug 2012 #39
Wrong 5 different ways grantcart Aug 2012 #41
Exactly my point! You could have other countries, other than the US who msanthrope Aug 2012 #52
To get justice for their clients. grantcart Aug 2012 #60
Again, is there an actual extradition request? Or are you just speculating? msanthrope Aug 2012 #64
Oh for god sake grantcart Aug 2012 #68
grantcart....Sweden doesn't have to promise anything. And they won't. Nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #73
Then they are doing a grave disservice to the two women... girl gone mad Aug 2012 #106
Failure to negotiate with a fugitive alleged rapist is a feature, not a bug. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #114
I have no doubt it is a feature.. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #115
+1000000000. I agree, its at the level of spamming riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #28
HIDE THREAD is your friend. MADem Aug 2012 #147
They had so much stuff they could not digest it and make a narrative for it treestar Aug 2012 #23
DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2012 #26
Your characterization of those that object to this tripe as being Assange disciples is grantcart Aug 2012 #30
Much of your "criticism" of the posting of these articles has been just as full of it, pal....nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #34
That is not what you said grantcart Aug 2012 #37
Decision time?... SidDithers Aug 2012 #45
Anoher steaming pile grantcart Aug 2012 #50
How would Swedish prosecutors get justice "in a New York minute"?... SidDithers Aug 2012 #91
Read what Grantcart wrote upthread, Sid. He makes points and unlike the OP and yourself Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #31
... SidDithers Aug 2012 #35
Again, no content whatsoever. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #38
Wrong again, eh?... SidDithers Aug 2012 #46
Hang in there Sid. I see you're being dogpiled as well, and from quite an unlikely source. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #154
Of course there is no content grantcart Aug 2012 #71
bully dionysus Aug 2012 #48
Maybe the company was founded retroactively. nt valerief Aug 2012 #53
Does Bain Capital own a chunk of that enterprise??? MADem Aug 2012 #102
so what if it was fake, the most stunning thing here is the utter immorality arely staircase Aug 2012 #63
Wikileaks was not the leaker of these documents. Wikileaks actually sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #79
so they did NOT publish this? arely staircase Aug 2012 #86
You could just read the wikileaks page and find out for youself. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #107
Yes, except Wikileaks was not the leaker of those records. They and other sites sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #82
is there something wrong with having hiv? arely staircase Aug 2012 #87
"anyone who would link or otherwise broadcast such information is a pos." girl gone mad Aug 2012 #108
obtuse is as obtuse does arely staircase Aug 2012 #111
Do you stand by your comment or not? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #113
more than ever arely staircase Aug 2012 #116
So to set the record straight girl gone mad Aug 2012 #121
i have looked into it arely staircase Aug 2012 #145
Don't you need a vacation? Cleita Aug 2012 #69
As I already posted in #15 above: "Maybe he's innocent. I think Sweden can sort it out fairly." struggle4progress Aug 2012 #80
So you are beginning to doubt yourself it seems. Cleita Aug 2012 #83
Your ESP has apparently been on the fritz for quite some time struggle4progress Aug 2012 #89
Nice strawman there. Cleita Aug 2012 #90
what does this have to do with exposing the corruption and intrusiveness? rachel1 Aug 2012 #81
You've turned into a one-topic record here on DU. Alduin Aug 2012 #88
I do appreciate your opinion on how DU should be used as a resource struggle4progress Aug 2012 #92
No You Don't HangOnKids Aug 2012 #103
Why are you "unhealthily obsesssed" over someone else's interest? MADem Aug 2012 #148
Why do you have to butt into my business? Alduin Aug 2012 #149
Because I find your enthusiastic abrogation of the poster's free speech rights "obsessive." MADem Aug 2012 #150
I make the comments because the poster can post one thread on the subject... Alduin Aug 2012 #153
If you all feel the same, then by all means, please take MADem's advice, en masse. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #156
HIDE THREAD is your friend. Stop telling people what they can/can't do. MADem Aug 2012 #166
All I see here is... Alduin Aug 2012 #167
Thank you for showing us what you're all about. There's no doubt, now. NT MADem Aug 2012 #168
I am quite firmly on the fence regarding Assange, and the whole matter swirling about him. apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #104
As(SPAM)ange. You need a wiki-hate forum. morningfog Aug 2012 #112
WIKILEAKS DEBUNKED THE HIV STORY FFS! frylock Aug 2012 #142
Nope. When Jobs died, Wikileaks tweeted a linkon Wikileaks site to a supposed HIV report for Job struggle4progress Aug 2012 #143
What exactly are these "conspiracy theories"? AntiFascist Aug 2012 #144
Wikileaks Owes Steve Jobs An Apology struggle4progress Aug 2012 #162
So are you saying everything that wiki leaks reported is a fraud? And this does not mean I think still_one Aug 2012 #151
I'll assume your reading comprehension skills are really better than that struggle4progress Aug 2012 #161
I am trying to make a point. There is a consorted effort, and maybe not on your part, or still_one Aug 2012 #163
wow. you're just a little one man army against wikileaks, aren't you? Matariki Aug 2012 #155
You don't wanna read my posts, then don't read em struggle4progress Aug 2012 #159
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