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LAS14

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Thu May 2, 2019, 08:54 AM May 2019

I'm afraid it has finally sunk in. [View all]

That I live in a country where a solid 35% (and often more) don't share my values, the values I thought were "American" values. The values I learned in school when I learned "Give me your tired, your poor..." The values that made me proude when I travelled abroad. It's not just those at the bottom of the economic ladder, or threatened with being shoved there. It's the people at the top that don't just disagree with me about the role of government (like our Republican friends who spent oodles of time and money on good deeds), but the masses at the top that seem like characters from a bad movie.

It's been slow coming, my evolution from disbelief to belief. I think the thing that finally tipped me all the way over was hearing about the taxi driver who asked my son how he liked this great economy. A small thing, but it tipped me.

Did any of the rest of you have to evolve to this point of understanding? Do any of the rest of you still not quite believe it?

tia
las

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It Can be Disheartening to Realize How Many Truly Awful Americans There Are, However... dlk May 2019 #1
Some people... I_have_had_enough May 2019 #44
Last president election safeinOhio May 2019 #2
We have a illegitimate president and AG who think they can pick and chose duforsure May 2019 #3
Yep, I evolved to this point a few years ago rurallib May 2019 #4
Wow Ohiogal May 2019 #6
I think quite a few young people are more savvy about birth control harumph May 2019 #10
my observation study war no more May 2019 #25
The cause being Quiverfull FiveGoodMen May 2019 #46
Many of them snicker and gloat The Mouth May 2019 #28
They are being conditioned by media, schools, churches etc not to make a fuss either rurallib May 2019 #18
Excellent summary... N_E_1 for Tennis May 2019 #27
High turn out in 2018 . . Iliyah May 2019 #5
I learnt that and more during the Iraq war. marylandblue May 2019 #7
And even then it may not work, watoos May 2019 #13
Marginalized people know it all their lives. It's important to listen to them. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #8
I learned a long time ago during the Chicago Democratic Convention, the Chicago 7 trial LiberalArkie May 2019 #9
The 1960's when I learned the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a staged event by our government intended jalan48 May 2019 #11
Don't suppose you were alive during the Vietnam War then. ZZenith May 2019 #12
The republican party has left us. A dangerous and scary cult has taken its' place. Initech May 2019 #14
I agonized for months after the Muslim ban in January, 2017 Ponietz May 2019 #15
I've pretty much understood it since GWB and 2000. Now globalists are astroturfing them and us ancianita May 2019 #16
I think I had that kind of realization when "liberal" CA passed Prop 187 in 1994... RockRaven May 2019 #17
Yes, I remember that, too. trev May 2019 #42
And Christianity is quite different than I learned as a wee lad. Poiuyt May 2019 #19
Of course, Jesus was and is all about love. :-) LAS14 May 2019 #35
Two great hopes. Mueller severely rebukes DOJ actions and Trump loses in 2020. Only Mueller can Pepsidog May 2019 #20
I don't know which is more galling - calimary May 2019 #21
Ever since GWB's appointment as president. trev May 2019 #43
Ditto. It was the day the Constitution became irrelevant. lunatica May 2019 #64
yesterday's hearing was a new low johnnyfins May 2019 #22
I learned this under Raygun. kairos12 May 2019 #23
I started waking up with George HW Bush Grey May 2019 #24
POC, especially women, have experienced this for awhile. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #26
The history classes that I took in school taught me that this nation has always been divided Kaleva May 2019 #29
And the percentages have not changed much PaulRevere08 May 2019 #31
About 1/3 of the population supported King George III Kaleva May 2019 #33
Welcome! doompatrol39 May 2019 #30
Great post! I learned especially after our wages were still stuck in the 1980s and it is 2019. ... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #32
I've watched CDerekGo May 2019 #34
I live in mid state NY Woodwizard May 2019 #36
but they will hold their nose and vote for him again. study war no more May 2019 #41
It took me a good week after the election. Afromania May 2019 #37
The only ray of hope is this: HeiressofBickworth May 2019 #67
I didn't evolve slowly -- I hit the wall in 2016 Girard442 May 2019 #38
It's hard to accept that a virtual idiot has accomplished what some of the most powerful armies ever world wide wally May 2019 #39
I think it is unfair to blame every teacher, parent, and other influential person in your life colorado_ufo May 2019 #40
It's still sinking in for me. FiveGoodMen May 2019 #45
The Rude Awakening Fyrefox May 2019 #55
I read several books about Trump during the campaign, so I knew from the start he was Karadeniz May 2019 #47
Werner Herzog said it best.... playaseeker May 2019 #48
sad... myohmy2 May 2019 #49
Did you not appreciate during the BFEE... SMC22307 May 2019 #50
I am not surprised at all vlyons May 2019 #51
Not just that 35%+ don't share "American values"... regnaD kciN May 2019 #52
Yes. Snackshack May 2019 #53
I see it from a different light through evolution. KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #54
Turnout in 2016 was 58%. So 35% of 58%. X_Digger May 2019 #56
I think such a demographic exists in almost every country Mr. Ected May 2019 #57
In Nebraska TheFarseer May 2019 #58
I finally realized that I was wrong to think all the poor and working class white people here in prodigitalson May 2019 #59
Indeed, I came to this realization The Liberal Lion May 2019 #60
How do we ever "kiss and make up"?... knowing who and what they are...? albacore May 2019 #61
Yep, it's true. 35% of the population are bigoted pieces of shit. backscatter712 May 2019 #62
This rush to the rotting underbelly bottom has convinced me lunatica May 2019 #63
Yup. It hurts. Nitram May 2019 #65
As a gay man, I was already aware of mass hatred Politicub May 2019 #66
35% of any human group is trash Loki Liesmith May 2019 #68
I'm surprised by the number of white supremacist Buckeyeblue May 2019 #69
That's an odd thing coming from a taxi driver. heckles65 May 2019 #70
Because of my experiences growing up here Meowmee May 2019 #71
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